From: Tom Stiller on
In article <dxizd0mOwXzR-pn2-pFjKX97LP1OB(a)localhost>,
"John Varela" <OLDlamps(a)verizon.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 03:00:37 UTC, Bob Harris
> <nospam.News.Bob(a)remove.Smith-Harris.us> wrote:
>
> > In article <030120101554156234%otto(a)bogus.address.invalid>,
> > Otto Pylot <otto(a)bogus.address.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <dxmOwXzR-pn2-ydsddZg74Uw0(a)localhost>, John Varela
> > > <OLDlamps(a)verizon.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 07:18:11 UTC, Otto Pylot
> > > > <otto(a)bogus.address.invalid> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > In article <isw-71D35F.21134102012010@[216.168.3.50]>, isw
> > > > > <isw(a)witzend.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Get something like iStumbler and find out which channels
> > > > > > are least-used in your neighborhood, and use one of them.
> > > > > > Odds are, that most folks just brought their WAP home,
> > > > > > plugged it in, and never changed from the default channel
> > > > > > -- that's sure the case around here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Isaac
> > > > >
> > > > > I forgot about that. Thanks for the reminder.
> > > >
> > > > iStumbler has not been updated for Snow Leopard.
> > > >
> > > > I haven't found a good replacement for it.
> > >
> > > I just discovered that. Bummer. I'll just use Channel 6 for G and
> > > Channel 149 for N for now.
> >
> > Unless you know that channels 1 or 11 are in use, it would be
> > better to pick 1 or 11, as channel 6 is frequently the default for
> > WiFi base stations where the owners do the minimum setup.
>
> I'm using 8 because there are neighbors on 1, 6, and 11. Or at least
> there were, before I upgraded to Snow Leopard and iStumbler stopped
> working.
>
> It's annoyong that there's nothing on the iStumbler site indicating
> whether it will be updated, but there is an appeal for donations.

If channels 6 and 11 are busy, using channel 8 may be worse than either
one of them. See <http://www.moonblinkwifi.com/2point4freq.cfm>

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From: Otto Pylot on
In article <tom_stiller-467CCB.16422904012010(a)news.individual.net>, Tom
Stiller <tom_stiller(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> In article <dxizd0mOwXzR-pn2-pFjKX97LP1OB(a)localhost>,
> "John Varela" <OLDlamps(a)verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 03:00:37 UTC, Bob Harris
> > <nospam.News.Bob(a)remove.Smith-Harris.us> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <030120101554156234%otto(a)bogus.address.invalid>,
> > > Otto Pylot <otto(a)bogus.address.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article <dxmOwXzR-pn2-ydsddZg74Uw0(a)localhost>, John Varela
> > > > <OLDlamps(a)verizon.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 07:18:11 UTC, Otto Pylot
> > > > > <otto(a)bogus.address.invalid> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > In article <isw-71D35F.21134102012010@[216.168.3.50]>, isw
> > > > > > <isw(a)witzend.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Get something like iStumbler and find out which channels
> > > > > > > are least-used in your neighborhood, and use one of them.
> > > > > > > Odds are, that most folks just brought their WAP home,
> > > > > > > plugged it in, and never changed from the default channel
> > > > > > > -- that's sure the case around here.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Isaac
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I forgot about that. Thanks for the reminder.
> > > > >
> > > > > iStumbler has not been updated for Snow Leopard.
> > > > >
> > > > > I haven't found a good replacement for it.
> > > >
> > > > I just discovered that. Bummer. I'll just use Channel 6 for G and
> > > > Channel 149 for N for now.
> > >
> > > Unless you know that channels 1 or 11 are in use, it would be
> > > better to pick 1 or 11, as channel 6 is frequently the default for
> > > WiFi base stations where the owners do the minimum setup.
> >
> > I'm using 8 because there are neighbors on 1, 6, and 11. Or at least
> > there were, before I upgraded to Snow Leopard and iStumbler stopped
> > working.
> >
> > It's annoyong that there's nothing on the iStumbler site indicating
> > whether it will be updated, but there is an appeal for donations.
>
> If channels 6 and 11 are busy, using channel 8 may be worse than either
> one of them. See <http://www.moonblinkwifi.com/2point4freq.cfm>

Excellent. Thank you. 6 seems to be working ok but at least I can use 1
or 11 just in case.

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From: John Varela on
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 21:42:29 UTC, Tom Stiller <tom_stiller(a)yahoo.com>
wrote:

> In article <dxizd0mOwXzR-pn2-pFjKX97LP1OB(a)localhost>,
> "John Varela" <OLDlamps(a)verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 03:00:37 UTC, Bob Harris
> > <nospam.News.Bob(a)remove.Smith-Harris.us> wrote:

> > > Unless you know that channels 1 or 11 are in use, it would be
> > > better to pick 1 or 11, as channel 6 is frequently the default for
> > > WiFi base stations where the owners do the minimum setup.
> >
> > I'm using 8 because there are neighbors on 1, 6, and 11. Or at least
> > there were, before I upgraded to Snow Leopard and iStumbler stopped
> > working.
> >
> > It's annoyong that there's nothing on the iStumbler site indicating
> > whether it will be updated, but there is an appeal for donations.
>
> If channels 6 and 11 are busy, using channel 8 may be worse than either
> one of them. See <http://www.moonblinkwifi.com/2point4freq.cfm>

From the chart on that page it looks to me like all channels have
overlaps, so I don't understand the assertion that 1, 6, and 11
don't have overlaps.

Can you explain?

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From: Tom Stiller on
In article <dxizd0mOwXzR-pn2-EzpIoRFNiIbd(a)localhost>,
"John Varela" <OLDlamps(a)verizon.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 21:42:29 UTC, Tom Stiller <tom_stiller(a)yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > In article <dxizd0mOwXzR-pn2-pFjKX97LP1OB(a)localhost>,
> > "John Varela" <OLDlamps(a)verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 03:00:37 UTC, Bob Harris
> > > <nospam.News.Bob(a)remove.Smith-Harris.us> wrote:
>
> > > > Unless you know that channels 1 or 11 are in use, it would be
> > > > better to pick 1 or 11, as channel 6 is frequently the default for
> > > > WiFi base stations where the owners do the minimum setup.
> > >
> > > I'm using 8 because there are neighbors on 1, 6, and 11. Or at least
> > > there were, before I upgraded to Snow Leopard and iStumbler stopped
> > > working.
> > >
> > > It's annoyong that there's nothing on the iStumbler site indicating
> > > whether it will be updated, but there is an appeal for donations.
> >
> > If channels 6 and 11 are busy, using channel 8 may be worse than either
> > one of them. See <http://www.moonblinkwifi.com/2point4freq.cfm>
>
> From the chart on that page it looks to me like all channels have
> overlaps, so I don't understand the assertion that 1, 6, and 11
> don't have overlaps.
>
> Can you explain?

One can only assign three non-overlapping channels. If 1, 6, and 11
(non-overlapping) are in use by neighbors, any other channel assignment
will overlap with (at least) one of them.

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From: Verne Arase on
On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 14:08:30 -0600, nospam wrote
(in article <020120101208306423%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>):

> In article <020120101047205928%otto(a)bogus.address.invalid>, Otto Pylot
> <otto(a)bogus.address.invalid> wrote:
>
> apple's airport is also dual band so that g clients don't slow down the
> n network. you can also keep your wrt54g (an excellent router) for b/g
> only clients and use a new router for n-only, and set it up as dual
> channel network for the fastest speed.

The latest Airport Extreme (or the one I got at any rate) has the ability to
produce networks on the 2.4 and 5 ghz bands, and can produce three networks:
a primary network on the 2.4 and 5 ghz band and a guest network.

Unfortunately, Apple seems to have dropped the ability to generate a WEP
protected network.

If you use this solution, you can just keep the WRT54G as a backup (since it
won't be needed).

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