From: 4-2-0 on
In article <bob-45FB48.15525826022010(a)5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>,
Robert Peirce <bob(a)peirce-family.com> wrote:

> I am still on 10.4. My wife is on 10.5. I held off on upgrading
> because I kept hearing stories about various driver problems. I haven't
> been hearing those lately. Are we all clear at this point?

I don't know if all your questions were answered, or if you want more.
And I apologize in advance if the other half of the unread responses
already stated my issues.

First, the MacBook Pro trackpad preference "Ignore accidental trackpad
input" does not appear to work. And "Ignore trackpad when mouse is
attached" has disappeared under mouse preferences. These are likely
related. A bug has been filed. No response, AT ALL except the robot
thank you email.

I gained 15GB of disk space. I don't know what was lost or given up.
Everything appears to be intact. I went from 12GB free (of a 120G drive)
up to 28G free.

Xcode 3.2.1 (needed for 64 bit development and iPhone OS3) has major
issues related to documentation. Everyone I know at Apple HQ thinks it's
a POS. That's where they send the newbies in base development because
the clientele are all intelligent enough to find workarounds for all of
the undocumented features the newbies have installed.

But it is stable. No crashes or the equivalent of the blue screen of
death.
From: David Empson on
4-2-0 <nospam(a)today.thanks> wrote:

> In article <bob-45FB48.15525826022010(a)5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>,
> Robert Peirce <bob(a)peirce-family.com> wrote:
>
> > I am still on 10.4. My wife is on 10.5. I held off on upgrading
> > because I kept hearing stories about various driver problems. I haven't
> > been hearing those lately. Are we all clear at this point?
>
> I don't know if all your questions were answered, or if you want more.
> And I apologize in advance if the other half of the unread responses
> already stated my issues.
>
> First, the MacBook Pro trackpad preference "Ignore accidental trackpad
> input" does not appear to work. And "Ignore trackpad when mouse is
> attached" has disappeared under mouse preferences. These are likely
> related. A bug has been filed. No response, AT ALL except the robot
> thank you email.
>
> I gained 15GB of disk space. I don't know what was lost or given up.
> Everything appears to be intact. I went from 12GB free (of a 120G drive)
> up to 28G free.

A small part of that was due to a redefinition of "GB". Finder in
Leopard and earlier use the traditional computer notation where KB/MB/GB
are measured in powers of two, while Finder in Snow Leopard has switched
to powers of ten. For capacities measured in gigabytes, this gives an
apparaent increase of 7% in all numbers relating to disk capacity, free
space and file size.

Therefore your "12 GB" free (under Leopard) would be displayed as almost
"13 GB" in Snow Leopard, and the drive capacity would have increased
from about "112 GB" to "120 GB".

A moderate chunk of the saving is due to no longer having to include
PowerPC code in many files in the system, since PowerPC Macs can't run
Snow Leopard. (There is still a lot of PowerPC code there to support
PowerPC applications running in Rosetta.)

A large chunk of the saving is due to using a compression mechanism for
many files in the system.

The rest of the saving is due to not installing all the printer drivers
by default, just those you are actually using.

Net result is a lot of disk space saved with no loss of functionality.

--
David Empson
dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz
From: Robert Peirce on
In article <GZJjn.3227$jt1.3216(a)newsfe01.iad>,
4-2-0 <nospam(a)today.thanks> wrote:

> In article <bob-45FB48.15525826022010(a)5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>,
> Robert Peirce <bob(a)peirce-family.com> wrote:
>
> > I am still on 10.4. My wife is on 10.5. I held off on upgrading
> > because I kept hearing stories about various driver problems. I haven't
> > been hearing those lately. Are we all clear at this point?
>
> First, the MacBook Pro trackpad preference "Ignore accidental trackpad
> input" does not appear to work. And "Ignore trackpad when mouse is
> attached" has disappeared under mouse preferences. These are likely
> related. A bug has been filed. No response, AT ALL except the robot
> thank you email.

I noticed that! I thought it was me and I just hadn't figured out how
to turn it off.
From: David Empson on
Dan <me(a)here.net> wrote:

> In article <1jeuscz.1ghd4sndm9n5fN%dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz>,
> dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote:
>
> > A large chunk of the saving is due to using a compression mechanism for
> > many files in the system.
>
> Does this result in a performance hit, by needing to decompress files on
> every access?

Not a significant one.

Do a Google search for "HFS+ File Compression" to find some background.
It was described in detail in an Ars Technica review of Snow Leopard,
and the relevant bit is duplicated here:

<http://blog.fosketts.net/2009/09/11/bizarre-hfs-tricks-in-mac-os-x-10-6
-snow-leopard/>

In short, the compression is only used for read-only system files, and
the files in question are likely to be read infrequently (e.g. when
loading an application or library), so the impact is relatively low.

The CPU is fast enough that it probably takes less time to decompress
the data than it would to read a larger file from the hard drive. Net
result is more CPU activity and probably neutral for time required to
load the file, but a significant space saving.

If the computer has a solid state disk instead of a hard disk, the
compression may be a performance disadvantage, but the space saving is
even more important because of relatively small capacities for solid
state disks.

--
David Empson
dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz
From: Lewis on
On 04-Mar-10 01:14, 4-2-0 wrote:
> I gained 15GB of disk space. I don't know what was lost or given up.

Legacy PPC code. 10.6 is a smaller install than 10.5 because of this.


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