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From: BURT on 12 Aug 2010 19:53
On Aug 12, 3:35 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 12, 5:57 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 17:50:37 -0700 (PDT), mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > >On Aug 11, 8:00 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
> > >> On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 18:36:01 -0700, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...(a)gmail..com>
> > >> wrote:
>
> > >> >..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
> > >> >[....]
>
> > >> >> Why don't you investigate MY theory that there are THREE mass dimensions,
> > >> >> all of which are mutually invisible.
>
> > >> >> Fields are made of M2 and M3.
>
> > >> >> Henry Wilson...
>
> > >> >> .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.
>
> > >> >Yet you consider relativity too 'complicated'.
>
> > >> ...make that three.....
>
> > >> Henry Wilson...
>
> > >> .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.
>
> > >If you were able to understand the following two points then you would
> > >have conceptually advanced past 'mainstream' physics.
>
> > >The following two points are fundamental to the physics of nature.
>
> > >'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?'
> > >A. EINSTEIN
> > >http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf
>
> > >"If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass
> > >diminishes by L/c2."
>
> > That is true IF the radiation comes from the body.
>
> Let's discuss the radiation which comes from the body first. The body
> consists of matter. When the mass of the body diminishes the matter
> still exists. When the mass of the body diminishes what occurs in
> nature is the matter associated with the body converts to dark matter.
> There is still the same amount of matter in existence. There is still
> the same amount of mass in existence. All that has occurred is the
> matter has transitioned from one state to another. The matter has
> transitioned to dark matter. When this occurs the matter increases in
> volume and decreases in density. As the matter increases in volume the
> physically effects this transition has on the neighboring matter and
> dark matter is energy.
>
> When you watch a video of an atomic bomb explosion you are witnessing
> the physical effects matter converting to dark matter has on the
> neighboring matter and dark matter:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_oueK1OQYA
>
> > However, as I have been explaining in the other thread, when a charge
> > accelerates, the radiation it produces comes from the accelerating field and
> > not the particle carrying the charge.
>
> This sounds similar to what occurs in a double slit experiment. A
> moving particle has an associated dark matter displacement wave. The
> moving particle enters and exits a single slit. The associated dark
> matter displacement wave enters and exits multiple slits. When the
> dark matter displacement wave exits the slits it creates interference
> and the direction the particle travels is altered. Detecting the
> particle causes decoherence of the associated dark matter displacement
> wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference.
>
> Replace 'field' with 'dark matter' and we seem to be discussing the
> same physical aspect of nature.
>
>
>
> > >Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material. The
> > >mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists
> > >as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark matter.
> > >As matter converts to dark matter it expands in three dimensional
> > >space. The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring
> > >dark matter and matter is energy. Mass is conserved.
>
> > >Dark matter is displaced by matter.
> > >Dark matter is not at rest when displaced.
> > >Dark matter displaced by matter exerts pressure towards the matter.
> > >Pressure exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is gravity.
>
> > Henry Wilson...
>
> > .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Aether can be empty.

Mitch Raemsch
From: Henry Wilson DSc on 12 Aug 2010 20:53
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 15:47:01 -0700 (PDT), PD <thedraperfamily(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>On Aug 10, 5:24�pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
>> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 15:02:27 -0700 (PDT), PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Aug 9, 4:45�pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:

>>
>> >> Name one
>>
>> >Already have.
>> >Alv�ger et al. (1964).
>>
>> Don't be silly...
>
>Nothing silly about it. As I said, you like to ignore evidence that is
>directly counter to your beliefs, which is the behavior of a religious
>zealot.
>
>>
>> >It's also been noted that novas would first show up blue and then red
>> >over the course of the flash -- a firm prediction of BaTh -- which
>> >doesn't happen.
>>
>> Several comments.
>> You cannot be certain which light was emitted first.
>
>BaTh adorned with gremlins is not BaTh.
>
>>
>> According to WaSh, the observed wavelength shift is mainly dependent on radial
>> acceleration and not velocity.
>
>Mathematical expression, please. Please holster the BS.
>BaTh adorned with gremlins is not BaTh.

L/Lo = W*(1-Da/c^2)

>> Maximum acceleration does not necessarily occur
>> at the first instant of an explosion. Different regions would have a wiide
>> range of subsequent accelerations towards us.
>>
>> It is also quite possible that light speed differs very slightly for different
>> wavelengths.
>
>BaTh adorned with gremlins is not BaTh.
>
>>
>> >You can soften but not remove that with extinction,
>> >and the X-ray and gamma-ray spectra (for which extinction doesn't
>> >really operate) also does not exhibit this.
>>
>> Don't need extinction.....ADoppler explains it.
>>
>> Henry Wilson...
>>
>> .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.


Henry Wilson...

........Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.
From: BURT on 12 Aug 2010 20:58
On Aug 12, 4:53 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 12, 3:35 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 12, 5:57 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
>
> > > On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 17:50:37 -0700 (PDT), mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >On Aug 11, 8:00 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
> > > >> On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 18:36:01 -0700, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...(a)gmail.com>
> > > >> wrote:
>
> > > >> >..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
> > > >> >[....]
>
> > > >> >> Why don't you investigate MY theory that there are THREE mass dimensions,
> > > >> >> all of which are mutually invisible.
>
> > > >> >> Fields are made of M2 and M3.
>
> > > >> >> Henry Wilson...
>
> > > >> >> .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.
>
> > > >> >Yet you consider relativity too 'complicated'.
>
> > > >> ...make that three.....
>
> > > >> Henry Wilson...
>
> > > >> .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.
>
> > > >If you were able to understand the following two points then you would
> > > >have conceptually advanced past 'mainstream' physics.
>
> > > >The following two points are fundamental to the physics of nature.
>
> > > >'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?'
> > > >A. EINSTEIN
> > > >http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf
>
> > > >"If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass
> > > >diminishes by L/c2."
>
> > > That is true IF the radiation comes from the body.
>
> > Let's discuss the radiation which comes from the body first. The body
> > consists of matter. When the mass of the body diminishes the matter
> > still exists. When the mass of the body diminishes what occurs in
> > nature is the matter associated with the body converts to dark matter.
> > There is still the same amount of matter in existence. There is still
> > the same amount of mass in existence. All that has occurred is the
> > matter has transitioned from one state to another. The matter has
> > transitioned to dark matter. When this occurs the matter increases in
> > volume and decreases in density. As the matter increases in volume the
> > physically effects this transition has on the neighboring matter and
> > dark matter is energy.
>
> > When you watch a video of an atomic bomb explosion you are witnessing
> > the physical effects matter converting to dark matter has on the
> > neighboring matter and dark matter:
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_oueK1OQYA
>
> > > However, as I have been explaining in the other thread, when a charge
> > > accelerates, the radiation it produces comes from the accelerating field and
> > > not the particle carrying the charge.
>
> > This sounds similar to what occurs in a double slit experiment. A
> > moving particle has an associated dark matter displacement wave. The
> > moving particle enters and exits a single slit. The associated dark
> > matter displacement wave enters and exits multiple slits. When the
> > dark matter displacement wave exits the slits it creates interference
> > and the direction the particle travels is altered. Detecting the
> > particle causes decoherence of the associated dark matter displacement
> > wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference.
>
> > Replace 'field' with 'dark matter' and we seem to be discussing the
> > same physical aspect of nature.
>
> > > >Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material. The
> > > >mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists
> > > >as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark matter.
> > > >As matter converts to dark matter it expands in three dimensional
> > > >space. The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring
> > > >dark matter and matter is energy. Mass is conserved.
>
> > > >Dark matter is displaced by matter.
> > > >Dark matter is not at rest when displaced.
> > > >Dark matter displaced by matter exerts pressure towards the matter.
> > > >Pressure exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is gravity.
>
> > > Henry Wilson...
>
> > > .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Aether can be empty.
>
> Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

It can also be full of energy that does not weigh.

Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on 12 Aug 2010 22:32
On Aug 12, 8:58 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 12, 4:53 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 12, 3:35 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 12, 5:57 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
>
> > > > On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 17:50:37 -0700 (PDT), mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >On Aug 11, 8:00 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
> > > > >> On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 18:36:01 -0700, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...(a)gmail.com>
> > > > >> wrote:
>
> > > > >> >..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
> > > > >> >[....]
>
> > > > >> >> Why don't you investigate MY theory that there are THREE mass dimensions,
> > > > >> >> all of which are mutually invisible.
>
> > > > >> >> Fields are made of M2 and M3.
>
> > > > >> >> Henry Wilson...
>
> > > > >> >> .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.
>
> > > > >> >Yet you consider relativity too 'complicated'.
>
> > > > >> ...make that three.....
>
> > > > >> Henry Wilson...
>
> > > > >> .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.
>
> > > > >If you were able to understand the following two points then you would
> > > > >have conceptually advanced past 'mainstream' physics.
>
> > > > >The following two points are fundamental to the physics of nature.
>
> > > > >'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?'
> > > > >A. EINSTEIN
> > > > >http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf
>
> > > > >"If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass
> > > > >diminishes by L/c2."
>
> > > > That is true IF the radiation comes from the body.
>
> > > Let's discuss the radiation which comes from the body first. The body
> > > consists of matter. When the mass of the body diminishes the matter
> > > still exists. When the mass of the body diminishes what occurs in
> > > nature is the matter associated with the body converts to dark matter..
> > > There is still the same amount of matter in existence. There is still
> > > the same amount of mass in existence. All that has occurred is the
> > > matter has transitioned from one state to another. The matter has
> > > transitioned to dark matter. When this occurs the matter increases in
> > > volume and decreases in density. As the matter increases in volume the
> > > physically effects this transition has on the neighboring matter and
> > > dark matter is energy.
>
> > > When you watch a video of an atomic bomb explosion you are witnessing
> > > the physical effects matter converting to dark matter has on the
> > > neighboring matter and dark matter:
>
> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_oueK1OQYA
>
> > > > However, as I have been explaining in the other thread, when a charge
> > > > accelerates, the radiation it produces comes from the accelerating field and
> > > > not the particle carrying the charge.
>
> > > This sounds similar to what occurs in a double slit experiment. A
> > > moving particle has an associated dark matter displacement wave. The
> > > moving particle enters and exits a single slit. The associated dark
> > > matter displacement wave enters and exits multiple slits. When the
> > > dark matter displacement wave exits the slits it creates interference
> > > and the direction the particle travels is altered. Detecting the
> > > particle causes decoherence of the associated dark matter displacement
> > > wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference.
>
> > > Replace 'field' with 'dark matter' and we seem to be discussing the
> > > same physical aspect of nature.
>
> > > > >Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material. The
> > > > >mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists
> > > > >as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark matter.
> > > > >As matter converts to dark matter it expands in three dimensional
> > > > >space. The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring
> > > > >dark matter and matter is energy. Mass is conserved.
>
> > > > >Dark matter is displaced by matter.
> > > > >Dark matter is not at rest when displaced.
> > > > >Dark matter displaced by matter exerts pressure towards the matter..
> > > > >Pressure exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is gravity.
>
> > > > Henry Wilson...
>
> > > > .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Aether can be empty.
>
> > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> It can also be full of energy that does not weigh.
>
> Mitch Raemsch

There can be no space nor any part of space devoid of mass; for such a
space is a void in which properties can not be ascribed.
From: BURT on 12 Aug 2010 23:01
On Aug 12, 7:32 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 12, 8:58 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 12, 4:53 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 12, 3:35 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Aug 12, 5:57 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
>
> > > > > On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 17:50:37 -0700 (PDT), mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >On Aug 11, 8:00 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
> > > > > >> On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 18:36:01 -0700, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...(a)gmail.com>
> > > > > >> wrote:
>
> > > > > >> >..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
> > > > > >> >[....]
>
> > > > > >> >> Why don't you investigate MY theory that there are THREE mass dimensions,
> > > > > >> >> all of which are mutually invisible.
>
> > > > > >> >> Fields are made of M2 and M3.
>
> > > > > >> >> Henry Wilson...
>
> > > > > >> >> .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.
>
> > > > > >> >Yet you consider relativity too 'complicated'.
>
> > > > > >> ...make that three.....
>
> > > > > >> Henry Wilson...
>
> > > > > >> .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.
>
> > > > > >If you were able to understand the following two points then you would
> > > > > >have conceptually advanced past 'mainstream' physics.
>
> > > > > >The following two points are fundamental to the physics of nature.
>
> > > > > >'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?'
> > > > > >A. EINSTEIN
> > > > > >http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf
>
> > > > > >"If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass
> > > > > >diminishes by L/c2."
>
> > > > > That is true IF the radiation comes from the body.
>
> > > > Let's discuss the radiation which comes from the body first. The body
> > > > consists of matter. When the mass of the body diminishes the matter
> > > > still exists. When the mass of the body diminishes what occurs in
> > > > nature is the matter associated with the body converts to dark matter.
> > > > There is still the same amount of matter in existence. There is still
> > > > the same amount of mass in existence. All that has occurred is the
> > > > matter has transitioned from one state to another. The matter has
> > > > transitioned to dark matter. When this occurs the matter increases in
> > > > volume and decreases in density. As the matter increases in volume the
> > > > physically effects this transition has on the neighboring matter and
> > > > dark matter is energy.
>
> > > > When you watch a video of an atomic bomb explosion you are witnessing
> > > > the physical effects matter converting to dark matter has on the
> > > > neighboring matter and dark matter:
>
> > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_oueK1OQYA
>
> > > > > However, as I have been explaining in the other thread, when a charge
> > > > > accelerates, the radiation it produces comes from the accelerating field and
> > > > > not the particle carrying the charge.
>
> > > > This sounds similar to what occurs in a double slit experiment. A
> > > > moving particle has an associated dark matter displacement wave. The
> > > > moving particle enters and exits a single slit. The associated dark
> > > > matter displacement wave enters and exits multiple slits. When the
> > > > dark matter displacement wave exits the slits it creates interference
> > > > and the direction the particle travels is altered. Detecting the
> > > > particle causes decoherence of the associated dark matter displacement
> > > > wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference.
>
> > > > Replace 'field' with 'dark matter' and we seem to be discussing the
> > > > same physical aspect of nature.
>
> > > > > >Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material.. The
> > > > > >mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists
> > > > > >as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark matter.
> > > > > >As matter converts to dark matter it expands in three dimensional
> > > > > >space. The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring
> > > > > >dark matter and matter is energy. Mass is conserved.
>
> > > > > >Dark matter is displaced by matter.
> > > > > >Dark matter is not at rest when displaced.
> > > > > >Dark matter displaced by matter exerts pressure towards the matter.
> > > > > >Pressure exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is gravity.
>
> > > > > Henry Wilson...
>
> > > > > .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Aether can be empty.
>
> > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > It can also be full of energy that does not weigh.
>
> > Mitch Raemsch
>
> There can be no space nor any part of space devoid of mass; for such a
> space is a void in which properties can not be ascribed.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Space substance can be void of energy.

Mitch Raemsch
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