Are Electric Fields Distrorted By Gravity? [Relativity]

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From: Henry Wilson DSc on 12 Aug 2010 17:57

On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 17:50:37 -0700 (PDT), mpc755 <mpc755(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>On Aug 11, 8:00�pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 18:36:01 -0700, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
>> >[....]
>>
>> >> Why don't you investigate MY theory that there are THREE mass dimensions,
>> >> all of which are mutually invisible.
>>
>> >> Fields are made of M2 and M3.
>>
>> >> Henry Wilson...
>>
>> >> .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.
>>
>> >Yet you consider relativity too 'complicated'.
>>
>> ...make that three.....
>>
>> Henry Wilson...
>>
>> .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.
>
>If you were able to understand the following two points then you would
>have conceptually advanced past 'mainstream' physics.
>
>The following two points are fundamental to the physics of nature.
>
>'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?'
>A. EINSTEIN
>http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf
>
>"If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass
>diminishes by L/c2."

That is true IF the radiation comes from the body.

However, as I have been explaining in the other thread, when a charge
accelerates, the radiation it produces comes from the accelerating field and
not the particle carrying the charge.

>Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material. The
>mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists
>as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark matter.
>As matter converts to dark matter it expands in three dimensional
>space. The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring
>dark matter and matter is energy. Mass is conserved.
>
>Dark matter is displaced by matter.
>Dark matter is not at rest when displaced.
>Dark matter displaced by matter exerts pressure towards the matter.
>Pressure exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is gravity.

Henry Wilson...

........Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.

From: Henry Wilson DSc on 12 Aug 2010 18:14

On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 05:02:11 -0700 (PDT), mpc755 <mpc755(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>On Aug 12, 7:42�am, "Autymn D. C." <lysde...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> On Aug 10, 5:21�am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>

>>
>> > Light's material is dark matter. Three dimensional space consists of
>> > dark matter and matter. There is no place in three dimensional space
>> > which is a void. There is no place in three dimensional space absent
>> > mass. For space absent mass is a void
>>
>> Liht's material is the el�ctr�n.
>
>Dark material is dark matter. Three dimensional space consists of
>matter and dark matter. There is no place nor any part of space devoid
>of mass. For space devoid of mass can not be ascribed properties.

Below the WDT (Wilson Density Threshold) there are regions of space that are at
least temporarily devoid of matter and fields. There is genuine 'nothing' in
these holes.
Because it is 'absolutely nothing' it can extend to infinity.

>By discussing light's material, we are discussing the medium in which
>light propagates. This material is dark matter.

You're just an aehterist.

Light is particulate and ballistic.

>Light waves propagate through dark matter.
>
>Light's material responsible for its propagation is dark matter.

....half right.......An EM quantum is an oscillating particle that carries its
own medium along with it.

Henry Wilson...

........Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.

From: PD on 12 Aug 2010 18:18

On Aug 12, 4:57 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:

>
> That is true IF the radiation comes from the body.
>
> However, as I have been explaining in the other thread, when a charge
> accelerates, the radiation it produces comes from the accelerating field and
> not the particle carrying the charge.
>

Henri is fond of being sure of something that he is confident is
outside the domain of testability.

He will be the first to tell you that no one can be absolutely whether
the radiation comes from the particle itself or from a field an
immeasurably small distance away from the particle. This allows him to
say with utter confidence that he knows for a fact it comes from the
latter and not the former. He doesn't find it necessary to try to
devise a test to discern whether the radiation comes from the particle
or from the field, as he would prefer to be sure of something that no
one knows for sure.

From: PD on 12 Aug 2010 18:19

On Aug 12, 5:14 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 05:02:11 -0700 (PDT), mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Aug 12, 7:42 am, "Autymn D. C." <lysde...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >> On Aug 10, 5:21 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > Light's material is dark matter. Three dimensional space consists of
> >> > dark matter and matter. There is no place in three dimensional space
> >> > which is a void. There is no place in three dimensional space absent
> >> > mass. For space absent mass is a void
>
> >> Liht's material is the elèctròn.
>
> >Dark material is dark matter. Three dimensional space consists of
> >matter and dark matter. There is no place nor any part of space devoid
> >of mass. For space devoid of mass can not be ascribed properties.
>
> Below the WDT (Wilson Density Threshold) there are regions of space that are at
> least temporarily devoid of matter and fields. There is genuine 'nothing' in
> these holes.
> Because it is 'absolutely nothing' it can extend to infinity.

Waving hands like this is a game for Henri. He's not at all serious
about science, and this is just a little source of semantic silliness
he finds amusing.

>
> >By discussing light's material, we are discussing the medium in which
> >light propagates. This material is dark matter.
>
> You're just an aehterist.
>
> Light is particulate and ballistic.
>
> >Light waves propagate through dark matter.
>
> >Light's material responsible for its propagation is dark matter.
>
> ...half right.......An EM quantum is an oscillating particle that carries its
> own medium along with it.
>
> Henry Wilson...
>
> .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.

From: mpc755 on 12 Aug 2010 18:35

On Aug 12, 5:57 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 17:50:37 -0700 (PDT), mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Aug 11, 8:00 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
> >> On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 18:36:01 -0700, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...(a)gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
> >> >[....]
>
> >> >> Why don't you investigate MY theory that there are THREE mass dimensions,
> >> >> all of which are mutually invisible.
>
> >> >> Fields are made of M2 and M3.
>
> >> >> Henry Wilson...
>
> >> >> .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.
>
> >> >Yet you consider relativity too 'complicated'.
>
> >> ...make that three.....
>
> >> Henry Wilson...
>
> >> .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.
>
> >If you were able to understand the following two points then you would
> >have conceptually advanced past 'mainstream' physics.
>
> >The following two points are fundamental to the physics of nature.
>
> >'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?'
> >A. EINSTEIN
> >http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf
>
> >"If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass
> >diminishes by L/c2."
>
> That is true IF the radiation comes from the body.
>

Let's discuss the radiation which comes from the body first. The body
consists of matter. When the mass of the body diminishes the matter
still exists. When the mass of the body diminishes what occurs in
nature is the matter associated with the body converts to dark matter.
There is still the same amount of matter in existence. There is still
the same amount of mass in existence. All that has occurred is the
matter has transitioned from one state to another. The matter has
transitioned to dark matter. When this occurs the matter increases in
volume and decreases in density. As the matter increases in volume the
physically effects this transition has on the neighboring matter and
dark matter is energy.

When you watch a video of an atomic bomb explosion you are witnessing
the physical effects matter converting to dark matter has on the
neighboring matter and dark matter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_oueK1OQYA

> However, as I have been explaining in the other thread, when a charge
> accelerates, the radiation it produces comes from the accelerating field and
> not the particle carrying the charge.
>

This sounds similar to what occurs in a double slit experiment. A
moving particle has an associated dark matter displacement wave. The
moving particle enters and exits a single slit. The associated dark
matter displacement wave enters and exits multiple slits. When the
dark matter displacement wave exits the slits it creates interference
and the direction the particle travels is altered. Detecting the
particle causes decoherence of the associated dark matter displacement
wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference.

Replace 'field' with 'dark matter' and we seem to be discussing the
same physical aspect of nature.

> >Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material. The
> >mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists
> >as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark matter.
> >As matter converts to dark matter it expands in three dimensional
> >space. The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring
> >dark matter and matter is energy. Mass is conserved.
>
> >Dark matter is displaced by matter.
> >Dark matter is not at rest when displaced.
> >Dark matter displaced by matter exerts pressure towards the matter.
> >Pressure exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is gravity.
>
> Henry Wilson...
>
> .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.