Are natural numbers isomorphic to complex numbers?
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From: Arturo Magidin on 4 Jun 2010 02:16 On Jun 4, 12:36 am, Akira Bergman <akiraberg...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 4, 2:35 pm, Arturo Magidin <magi...(a)member.ams.org> wrote: > > > Oh, dear, I see the problem. You think that when I said "you were > > talking above your pay grade" I was talking about *an actual pay > > grade*. > > It is funny sonny boy that you chose that particular one to express > your superior position in relation to me. Your assumptions on my > education supports this point. You can not slime your way out of this > one so easily. Googling "above your pay grade" (in quotation marks) yiels over 12,500 hits. Among them, a forum where people ask the meaning of words or expressions: http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=1033044 One response, (from "Loob", posted 15 July 2008): "It was very common in the military circles I moved in for a long time, audio; we civilians didn't use it much. ""It's above my pay grade" means something like "I'm too junior to know about that" or "I'm too junior to decide that". It doesn't necessarily mean that the speaker is of low rank: he or she could be quite senior. It's often used humorously, but by no means always. " Another, posted March 2008: " This exact expression is not very familiar to me, but it is readily understandable. There are many other similar expressions (like "out of your league")." -- Arturo Magidin
From: Akira Bergman on 4 Jun 2010 02:33 Dear Mr. Magidin, There is no useful point in pushing this ping-pong game further. It has gone all wrong. I do not disrespect you, and I wish I had a chance to attend your classes to further my math education. My apologies. Best wishes an regards, AB.
From: Arturo Magidin on 4 Jun 2010 02:51 On Jun 4, 1:33 am, Akira Bergman <akiraberg...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Mr. Magidin, > > There is no useful point in pushing this ping-pong game further. It > has gone all wrong. > I do not disrespect you, > and I wish I had a chance to attend your > classes to further my math education. > > My apologies. See, my first reaction is to say "pull the other one, it's got bells on" (which, as it happens, is not a comment about my sense of dress as compraed to yours). But if the apologies are meant honestly, I accept them and will say nothing further. -- Arturo Magidin
From: Ostap Bender on 4 Jun 2010 02:56 On Jun 3, 2:39 pm, Akira Bergman <akiraberg...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I don't claim to be a genius. I am merely trying to learn some math > more by intuition, when I can get through the raving formalists like > yourself. On Jun 2, 3:19 pm, Akira Bergman <akiraberg...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > All I did was to ask a question. They remind me some of my university > teachers. They used to say; "Do not ask meaning questions, just work > the formalism. Intuition means nothing without formalism." They are > like the preachers of the fundamentalist religions. Sounds like you are an innocent victim of a bunch of snobs, doesn't it? You ask a sincere question, and they tell you to go read a math book instead! What snotty snobs the mathematicians are! I almost wept at the rudeness and snobbery that you have unjustly encountered here, until I saw another thread, in which John Jones innocently wrote: > On May 19, 12:10 pm, John Jones <jonescard...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > > > "2 + 2 = 4" does not express a truth, it expresses a pattern (such as > > two by two re-patterns to four by one) And a nasty snob told him to shut up and not come back until he learned mathematics. And do you know who that nasty snob was? It was you: On May 29, 7:52 pm, Akira Bergman <akiraberg...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On May 19, 12:10 pm, John Jones <jonescard...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > > Maybe you should read a good book on mathematical logic, and not post > any more on this topic until you have a good understanding. You are a snob and a hypocrite. You are here on an ego trip. You don't know the most trivial facts in set theory, you write total nonsense, and yet you have the audacity to put down others: "you should read a good book on mathematical logic, and not post any more on this topic until you have a good understanding." Well, maybe you too should head your own advice, and go read a basic book on set theory, and not post any more on this topic until you have a good understanding (if ever).
From: Akira Bergman on 4 Jun 2010 03:07
On Jun 4, 4:56 pm, Ostap Bender <ostap_bender_1...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 3, 2:39 pm, Akira Bergman <akiraberg...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I don't claim to be a genius. I am merely trying to learn some math > > more by intuition, when I can get through the raving formalists like > > yourself. > > On Jun 2, 3:19 pm, Akira Bergman <akiraberg...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > All I did was to ask a question. They remind me some of my university > > teachers. They used to say; "Do not ask meaning questions, just work > > the formalism. Intuition means nothing without formalism." They are > > like the preachers of the fundamentalist religions. > > Sounds like you are an innocent victim of a bunch of snobs, doesn't > it? You ask a sincere question, and they tell you to go read a math > book instead! What snotty snobs the mathematicians are! > > I almost wept at the rudeness and snobbery that you have unjustly > encountered here, until I saw another thread, in which John Jones > > innocently wrote: > > On May 19, 12:10 pm, John Jones <jonescard...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > > > > "2 + 2 = 4" does not express a truth, it expresses a pattern (such as > > > two by two re-patterns to four by one) > > And a nasty snob told him to shut up and not come back until he > learned mathematics. > > And do you know who that nasty snob was? It was you: > > On May 29, 7:52 pm, Akira Bergman <akiraberg...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On May 19, 12:10 pm, John Jones <jonescard...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > > > Maybe you should read a good book on mathematical logic, and not post > > any more on this topic until you have a good understanding. > > You are a snob and a hypocrite. You are here on an ego trip. You don't > know the most trivial facts in set theory, you write total nonsense, > and yet you have the audacity to put down others: "you should read a > good book on mathematical logic, and not post any more on this topic > until you have a good understanding." > > Well, maybe you too should head your own advice, and go read a basic > book on set theory, and not post any more on this topic until you have > a good understanding (if ever). You do not know the background to that discussion. JJ was changing titles of many posts everyday to the degree of sabotage of that NG and did multiple postings on the same subject despite my repeated explanations. He was warned many times by many people about his destructive behavior and only recently stopped the sabotage. There is no comparison. And yours is opportunism. |