From: Arturo Magidin on
On Jun 2, 5:19 pm, Akira Bergman <akiraberg...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Pack mentality in action.

Ignorance and stubbornness in action.

> Insult one of them and all come barking.
> They seem to need drama in their little lives.

You seem to need to justify your silliness by claiming others are
being dumb.

> All I did was to ask a question.

Which indicated you did not know some basic things. As you further
"explained" yourself, you demonstrated that this was not a simple
lapse, but actually deep-seated ignorance on the subject and the
meaning of the words you were using. When this was explained to you,
you took this as a "suggestion" (as opposed to a statement of facts),
which you proceded to proclaim you had not "accepted". Thus
demonstrating willful ignorance.

> They remind me some of my university
> teachers. They used to say; "Do not ask meaning questions, just work
> the formalism. Intuition means nothing without formalism." They are
> like the preachers of the fundamentalist religions.

You remind me of every single willful ignoramus out there, claiming
that others are trying to stifle his "creativity", all the while
spouting utter nonsense and blaming other people's supposed "closed-
mindedness" for not understanding his true genius.

Bad news, Mr Bergman: you're just ignorant and stubborn. Your question
and continued defense of it shows you simply had and continue to have
no clue whatosever what "isomorphic" means, and you were talking well
above your pay grade.

--
Arturo Magidin

From: Ostap Bender on
On Jun 2, 6:48 pm, Arturo Magidin <magi...(a)member.ams.org> wrote:
> On Jun 2, 5:19 pm, Akira Bergman <akiraberg...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Pack mentality in action.
>
> Ignorance and stubbornness in action.
>
> > Insult one of them and all come barking.
> > They seem to need drama in their little lives.
>
> You seem to need to justify your silliness by claiming others are
> being dumb.
>
> > All I did was to ask a question.
>
> Which indicated you did not know some basic things. As you further
> "explained" yourself, you demonstrated that this was not a simple
> lapse, but actually deep-seated ignorance on the subject and the
> meaning of the words you were using. When this was explained to you,
> you took this as a "suggestion" (as opposed to a statement of facts),
> which you proceded to proclaim you had not "accepted". Thus
> demonstrating willful ignorance.
>
> > They remind me some of my university
> > teachers. They used to say; "Do not ask meaning questions, just work
> > the formalism. Intuition means nothing without formalism." They are
> > like the preachers of the fundamentalist religions.
>
> You remind me of every single willful ignoramus out there, claiming
> that others are trying to stifle his "creativity", all the while
> spouting utter nonsense and blaming other people's supposed "closed-
> mindedness" for not understanding his true genius.
>
> Bad news, Mr Bergman:

I wonder if his real name is "Akira Bergman" or "Ingmar
Kurosawa".... :-)

> you're just ignorant and stubborn. Your question
> and continued defense of it shows you simply had and continue to have
> no clue whatosever what "isomorphic" means, and you were talking well
> above your pay grade.
>
> --
> Arturo Magidin

From: porky_pig_jr on
On Jun 2, 6:19 pm, Akira Bergman <akiraberg...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 3, 6:11 am, Transfer Principle <lwal...(a)lausd.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 1, 10:33 pm, Ostap Bender <ostap_bender_1...(a)hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Jun 1, 7:56 pm, Gerry Myerson <ge...(a)maths.mq.edi.ai.i2u4email>
> > > wrote:
> > > > or the meaning of N, or the meaning of C, or the meaning of "is".
> > > > I wouldn't put any of those past OP.
> > > ""It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is" /President
> > > Clinton/
>
> > Like many sci.math posters, Myerson only questions the meaning
> > of "is" if someone with whom he disagrees, in this case the OP,
> > uses the word. Myerson never asks those with whom he agrees to
> > define every single word they use, even two-letter words. Thus
> > reveals the hypocrisy of those who ask for definitions of words.
>
> > And kudos to Bender to drawing attention to Myerson and his
> > Clintonian hairsplitting.
>
> Pack mentality in action. Insult one of them and all come barking.
> They seem to need drama in their little lives.
>
> All I did was to ask a question. They remind me some of my university
> teachers. They used to say; "Do not ask meaning questions, just work
> the formalism. Intuition means nothing without formalism." They are
> like the preachers of the fundamentalist religions.

This is *you* who keep barking incomprehensible gibberish, Sir.

Why don't you change your name to "Akita Doberman"?
From: Akira Bergman on
"...you were talking well above your pay grade."

Do you also measure success by the number of mob reviewed articles?

Do you wear a suit and tie when you suck up to your employer?

In universities, people like you teach by copying the notes in their
hands onto the board and encouraging students to copy the same thing
down. They distribute a set of probable questions with solutions
before the exams to increase the marks, so that they can report high
success rates to their superiors.

Incestuous and conformist mobs like you have destroyed the university
education all around the world by transforming them into mere
extensions of the corrupt society.

Every now and then, total outsiders like Grigory Perelman and Garrett
Lisi emerge and show you clowns how true science is done. But do you
learn? No. Because the the small time comforts provided by your
masters prevent you from seeing the ugly truth about yourselves.

"...for not understanding his true genius."

I don't claim to be a genius. I am merely trying to learn some math
more by intuition, when I can get through the raving formalists like
yourself.
From: porky_pig_jr on
On Jun 1, 11:29 pm, "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...(a)phiwumbda.org> wrote:
> Akira Bergman <akiraberg...(a)gmail.com> writes:
> > On Jun 2, 12:30 pm, Arturo Magidin <magi...(a)member.ams.org> wrote:
>
> >> And since this is trivial point for anyone who uses the word
> >> "isomorphism" knowing what it means, and knows some of the basic facts
> >> about real numbers (e.g., that they are *uncountable*), the comment
> >> about "credentials" was a pointed remark indicating that you were
> >> either talking about things you did not understand (e.g., the meaning
> >> "isomorphism"), or you were a crank (thinking that complex numbers are
> >> countable), or both.
>
> >> Perhaps you can put that "knowledge" and intuition of yours behind
> >> some actual learning?
>
> >> --
> >> Arturo Magidin
>
> > Now you are jumping. Porky's "credentials" comment was motivated (at
> > least in part) by my reply to his previous frivolous "my head
> > spinning" comment. He could not come back to that reply, so he jumped
> > on another more suitable one. His "thanks" was for giving him a chance
> > for a come back.
>
> Yes, that must be it.
>
> After all, a brilliant riposte like "Which part is spinning? The pork
> or the pig?" is simply devastating.  Porky must have really been
> seething over the way you bested him like that.
>
> --


Yeah. I threw away my Brown & Churchill and Ahlfors textbooks and wept
through the whole night. Even rolling in the mud didn't make me feel
better.