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From: E on 9 Apr 2010 15:27 Just measured hfe from some BC337-40 at about 5 mA collector current. Unfortunately nothing very interesting there Results: Sample size: 960 pcs minimum hfe: 388 maximum hfe 513 (datasheet limits are 250 and 630) avarage: 452 avarage deviation: 27 median: 463 mode: 477 Distribution is a bit strange looking with two spikes Histogram here: http://koti.mbnet.fi/hsahko/hfe/ -ek
From: Joel Koltner on 9 Apr 2010 15:37 "E" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:hpnv2c$5it$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > Distribution is a bit strange looking with two spikes Maybe two different batches of parts?
From: E on 9 Apr 2010 15:58 "Joel Koltner" <zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> kirjoitti viestiss�:fmLvn.199280$rq1.66072(a)en-nntp-02.dc1.easynews.com... > "E" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message > news:hpnv2c$5it$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> Distribution is a bit strange looking with two spikes > > Maybe two different batches of parts? > Possibly, alltought they were all from same bag. Or maybe just from different wafers? How many BC337 fit one wafer? Probably quite many... -ek
From: John Devereux on 9 Apr 2010 16:25 "E" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> writes: > "Joel Koltner" <zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> kirjoitti > viestissä:fmLvn.199280$rq1.66072(a)en-nntp-02.dc1.easynews.com... >> "E" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message >> news:hpnv2c$5it$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> Distribution is a bit strange looking with two spikes >> >> Maybe two different batches of parts? >> > > Possibly, alltought they were all from same bag. > Or maybe just from different wafers? > How many BC337 fit one wafer? Probably quite many... > > -ek > > Perhaps they take all the middle ones for a tighter-spec version? -- John Devereux
From: Jim Thompson on 9 Apr 2010 16:37 On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 21:25:45 +0100, John Devereux <john(a)devereux.me.uk> wrote: >"E" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> writes: > >> "Joel Koltner" <zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> kirjoitti >> viestiss�:fmLvn.199280$rq1.66072(a)en-nntp-02.dc1.easynews.com... >>> "E" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:hpnv2c$5it$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>> Distribution is a bit strange looking with two spikes >>> >>> Maybe two different batches of parts? >>> >> >> Possibly, alltought they were all from same bag. >> Or maybe just from different wafers? >> How many BC337 fit one wafer? Probably quite many... >> >> -ek >> >> > >Perhaps they take all the middle ones for a tighter-spec version? Roughly 80K _untested_ die (if wafer is 8"). The wafer is probably auto-probed and binned into various device numbers. Discrete device production is so automated... it's fascinating to watch the automated handling equipment :-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | The only thing bipartisan in this country is hypocrisy
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