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From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on 23 Mar 2010 02:55
On 23/03/2010 01:19, John Larkin wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 23:02:58 +0000, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
> <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 22/03/2010 16:37, Jim Thompson wrote:
>>> On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:03:06 -0500, "amdx"<amdx(a)knology.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> prostate exams will be available when the government disallows your exam!
>>>>
>>>> Thank god I had cancer last year!
>>>>
>>>> Heard on the Dennis Miller show.
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>
>>> I had a spike in my PSA test last year, so had the multi-round
>>> follow-up. Turned out to be a false positive.
>>>
>>> The funny part though was the manual exam... sweet young oriental babe
>>> says, "Drop your pants."
>>>
>>> I drop my pants and bend over. She says, "No. Let's do the front
>>> first."
>>>
>>> Panic! Panic! Shrivel :-(
>>>
>>> But we _are_ going to be like the UK. Committee approval _will_ be
>>> required for "procedures".
>>>
>>> They'll let us old folks die off.
>>>
>>> I'm going to scurry around and get everything fixed before this bill
>>> kicks in.
>>>
>>> Then outlive them :-)
>>>
>>> ...Jim Thompson
>>
>> Yeah... it's so bad over here in the UK that we are only 22nd on the
>> list of life expectancy. OTOH, the USA is at number 38. despite spending
>> vastly more than us on medical stuff.
>>
>> Ever wondered whether you might be doing something wrong, compared with
>> the UK?
>>
>> Canada is at 11. France at 10
>
> A big part of the difference is demographics. We have a lot of
> immigrants who don't get good medical care. Certain populations,
> Africans and Pacific islanders and native Americans for instance, seem
> poorly adapted to European diets (lots of meat, wheat, sugar, dairy
> products) and get diabetes, heart disease, cancer, high blood
> pressure, and such. All that fried food and pizza and ice cream and
> bread sure taste good.
>
> Euro-type Americans who have regular access to medical care do quite
> well. And Americans who get heart attacks, cancer, acute stuff like
> that, do very well by world standards.
>
> The US medical establishment also agressively fights for the lives of
> babies born prematurely or with birth defects, and counts those as
> deaths if they don't survive. It's very expensive, often hundreds of
> thousands of dollars, to save a premature child. And if they do die,
> we count them against life expectancy statistics. Many other countries
> make no such effort and don't count these as deaths.

So we would expect infant mortality to be considerably better than (say)
the UK?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate

USA is at number 33
UK is at number 22

Explanation?
[And BTW, the number of immigrants into the UK as a % of population is
probably similar to that of the USA]

Of course, if we are simply comparing people who get the best treatment
money can buy, I doubt there will be a lot of difference across the world.

--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
From: Robert Baer on 23 Mar 2010 15:59
Nico Coesel wrote:
> Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:03:06 -0500, "amdx" <amdx(a)knology.net> wrote:
>>
>>> prostate exams will be available when the government disallows your exam!
>>>
>>> Thank god I had cancer last year!
>>>
>>> Heard on the Dennis Miller show.
>>> Mike
>>>
>> I had a spike in my PSA test last year, so had the multi-round
>> follow-up. Turned out to be a false positive.
>>
>> The funny part though was the manual exam... sweet young oriental babe
>> says, "Drop your pants."
>>
>> I drop my pants and bend over. She says, "No. Let's do the front
>> first."
>>
>> Panic! Panic! Shrivel :-(
>>
>> But we _are_ going to be like the UK. Committee approval _will_ be
>> required for "procedures".
>
> Thats just rubbish told by people that will have to charge fair prices
> instead of filling their pockets.
>
>> They'll let us old folks die off.
>
> Nonsense. Affordable healthcare makes sure people can get old in the
> first place.
>
> I really don't understand why so many people in the US like to get
> screwed by the most expensive healthcare system in the world.
>
I am sorry, but with the new system, you will be FORCED to use it or
PAY($$$$) penalty taxes, etc.
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on 23 Mar 2010 02:59
On 23/03/2010 04:42, dagmargoodboat(a)yahoo.com wrote:
> On Mar 22, 8:19 pm, John Larkin
> <jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 23:02:58 +0000, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
>>
>>
>>
>> <dirk.bru...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 22/03/2010 16:37, Jim Thompson wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:03:06 -0500, "amdx"<a...(a)knology.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>> prostate exams will be available when the government disallows your exam!
>>
>>>>> Thank god I had cancer last year!
>>
>>>>> Heard on the Dennis Miller show.
>>>>> Mike
>>
>>>> I had a spike in my PSA test last year, so had the multi-round
>>>> follow-up. Turned out to be a false positive.
>>
>>>> The funny part though was the manual exam... sweet young oriental babe
>>>> says, "Drop your pants."
>>
>>>> I drop my pants and bend over. She says, "No. Let's do the front
>>>> first."
>>
>>>> Panic! Panic! Shrivel :-(
>>
>>>> But we _are_ going to be like the UK. Committee approval _will_ be
>>>> required for "procedures".
>>
>>>> They'll let us old folks die off.
>>
>>>> I'm going to scurry around and get everything fixed before this bill
>>>> kicks in.
>>
>>>> Then outlive them :-)
>>
>>>> ...Jim Thompson
>>
>>> Yeah... it's so bad over here in the UK that we are only 22nd on the
>>> list of life expectancy. OTOH, the USA is at number 38. despite spending
>>> vastly more than us on medical stuff.
>>
>>> Ever wondered whether you might be doing something wrong, compared with
>>> the UK?
>>
>>> Canada is at 11. France at 10
>>
>> A big part of the difference is demographics. We have a lot of
>> immigrants who don't get good medical care. Certain populations,
>> Africans and Pacific islanders and native Americans for instance, seem
>> poorly adapted to European diets (lots of meat, wheat, sugar, dairy
>> products) and get diabetes, heart disease, cancer, high blood
>> pressure, and such. All that fried food and pizza and ice cream and
>> bread sure taste good.
>>
>> Euro-type Americans who have regular access to medical care do quite
>> well. And Americans who get heart attacks, cancer, acute stuff like
>> that, do very well by world standards.
>
> Most of our mortality is fat-related, and we've got more fat people.
> It has nothing to do with the quality or availability of medical care.
>
> But, even with that, if you eliminate murders (gangs, killing one
> another, mostly) and car accidents (Americans can afford more cars,
> and to drive them more), Americans outlive Europeans.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> James Arthur

Life expectancy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

USA number 38
UK number 22

Nope - still doesn't add up.
Most (West) Europeans live longer.

--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
From: Falk Willberg on 23 Mar 2010 04:19
Am 23.03.2010 05:42, schrieb dagmargoodboat(a)yahoo.com:
> On Mar 22, 8:19 pm, John Larkin
> <jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 23:02:58 +0000, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax

....

>>> Ever wondered whether you might be doing something wrong, compared with
>>> the UK?

> But, even with that, if you eliminate murders (gangs, killing one
> another, mostly) and car accidents (Americans can afford more cars,

Do they?

> and to drive them more),

Germans (23 on
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy) use
to drive them fast ;-)

> Americans outlive Europeans.

Cubans outlive U.S. citizens ;-)

Falk
From: John Larkin on 23 Mar 2010 09:53
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 09:19:21 +0100, Falk Willberg
<Faweglassenlk(a)falk-willberg.de> wrote:

>Am 23.03.2010 05:42, schrieb dagmargoodboat(a)yahoo.com:
>> On Mar 22, 8:19 pm, John Larkin
>> <jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 23:02:58 +0000, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
>
>...
>
>>>> Ever wondered whether you might be doing something wrong, compared with
>>>> the UK?
>
>> But, even with that, if you eliminate murders (gangs, killing one
>> another, mostly) and car accidents (Americans can afford more cars,
>
>Do they?
>
>> and to drive them more),
>
>Germans (23 on
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy) use
>to drive them fast ;-)
>
>> Americans outlive Europeans.
>
>Cubans outlive U.S. citizens ;-)
>
>Falk

According to Fidel they do.

John

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