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From: The New Guy on 3 Oct 2007 22:04 > >>>> Well that was a lightning fast reply. So what did I miss? I'd love > >>>> to get this working properly with either SuperDuper, Retrospect or > >>>> Silverkeeper. > >> > >> Retrospect in particular can do _anything_ you want so long as it has > >> something to do with backing up or restoring from a backup... it's just > >> not the easiest app in the world to use. > > > > If anyone can explain how to backup just one folder in Retrospect and > > then do an incremental backup (only touching folders that have been > > deleted, added or modified since last backup) afterwards that would be > > great. > > J.J writes: > 1 Launch Retro. > 2 Click 'Immediate Backup' > 3 Click 'Sources' > 4 Click on the volume containing the folder you want to use > 5 Click on 'Subvolume' > 6 Select the folder you want, click on 'Define' > 7 Click on 'Okay' > 8 Click on 'Destination' > 9 Define your backup set, including setting backup type (CD/DVD. file, > Internet, removable disk...) > 10 Select the files on the subvolume that you want to back up > 11 Back up. > It's quite straight-forward. The main problem with Retro is the overabundance > of options. Yes - you got that right. It would be smart to design it for the type of backup right from the start so a beginner like me doesn't get distracted with irrelevant stuff. This is vital actually as this is a perfect example of why many other beginners don't backup their stuff more often. It should be brain dead easy right off the bat. Also, it should ask the size that's going to be backed up so then it can give destination options. If its over 9gb optical discs are out of the question. Almost nobody uses tape anymore so external hard drives are the natural choice. Options like zip and floppy seem to be crazy in this day and age. And what is a "removable disk"? Is that a hot swappable hard drive? I thought a disc is a DVD or CD and a disk is a hard drive. Why not say hard drive? And since 99% of users will use an external hard drive with a USB, Firewire or eSata connection, why not just say External Hard Drive? Wording is very important. I want to thank you for the tips. I'll try them as soon Retrospect finishes its current task. Same with Silverkeeper. Great stuff. > >> On the other hand, if SilverKeeper isn't the easiest app in the world to > >> use > >> it's in the top ten. It's not as powerful as Retro, but then you don't > >> need > >> to be a pro sysadmin to use it. > > > > Ditto with Silverkeeper. How do I backup just 1 folder? > > 1 Launch SK > > 2 on the left pull-down menu, select 'new backup set' > > 3 click on source > > 4 select the volume and then the folder you want to back up > > 5 click on destination > > 6 click on the big purple 'Go' button. > > > Hello designers: Here's some questions for the user: > > What folders to backup? > > What to exclude in those folders? > > Destination of backup? > > Now that's simple! > > Retro will do that with absolutely no sweat. > > > > > Tried SuperDuper but it gave some errors at the end. Plus it didn't > > back up Preferences. Maybe I had a setting wrong. But I'm pretty > > sure I set it to just clone the original hard drive. > > just launch it and use the defaults, all you have to do is select the source > drive and the destination drive. > > > Maybe the errors > > precluded it from finishing. So now I'm just backing up the whole > > thing with Retrospect. We'll see how that works in a few hours. Took > > about 2 hours to copy 220 gb. Does that sound right? Both on the IDE > > channel. Both are 250 gb 7200 rpm drives connected to a 1.25 ghz > > Mini.
From: The New Guy on 3 Oct 2007 22:06 > > > Click on the button labeled "Source". Choose the folder you want > > > to back up from the window that appears. > > > > Finally somebody has something to contribute! > > So mercy me....I never thought of selecting subfolders. > > Why not? A folder is a folder, no matter where it is located. That's what I would have thought too. There's nothing special about that folder either. Its a lot smaller than the others, but other than that, nothing special. Just text files. All .doc stuff. > > I need more sleep...:) Anyway, one of my folders won't allow me to > > select it with the other folders. Its the top folder. But I can > > select it on its own. > > The prompt says "Choose a volume or folder you want to protect"; the key > word there is "a", meaning only one. I'll check that. Thanks. > > Also I have a pile of Aliases in this same column. They seem to > > be grayed out. I'd like to select them too. But it won't allow me > > to. Anybody have any idea why? > > Because they're not folders or volumes. They're aliases to files, > right? Not aliases to folders? Exactly. So I need to gather them together in a folder then back that up. Not a big deal. Thanks again. Michelle to the rescue!
From: David Empson on 3 Oct 2007 22:20 The New Guy <replytogroup(a)here.thanks> wrote: > > >> Well that was a lightning fast reply. So what did I miss? I'd love > > >> to get this working properly with either SuperDuper, Retrospect or > > >> Silverkeeper. > > > > Retrospect in particular can do _anything_ you want so long as it has > > something to do with backing up or restoring from a backup... it's just not > > the easiest app in the world to use. > > If anyone can explain how to backup just one folder in Retrospect and > then do an incremental backup (only touching folders that have been > deleted, added or modified since last backup) afterwards that would be > great. The key is to create a "Subvolume" in Retrospect, which is a designated folder that will be the source for the backup. You can do this while selecting a source, by clicking on the icon for the drive, then clicking the Subvolume button and navigating to the desired folder. From then on, it is the same as any other backup in Retrospect - pick your backup set, set up a script for automated backups, or use immediate backup as you see fit. -- David Empson dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz
From: David Empson on 3 Oct 2007 22:21 The New Guy <replytogroup(a)here.thanks> wrote: > I'm trying Retrospect but I'm getting an error message: > > Failed to Register "Lacie Backup Support" for privileges. > > Any idea what my options are? > It looks like its starting though. I added some exclusions but it > would be nice to be able to backup just 1 folder, for example. A > folder that is not in the Users folder. > > I'm trying a Duplicate backup. I wonder if its possible to do a smart > or incremental backup afterwards or do I need to continue with > duplication because I started with duplication? Duplicate is just an equivalent of a "clone" operation in something like SuperDuper. It gives you a single copy of the original files, which will be replaced with the latest version if you do another Duplicate. The resulting backup is readable in Finder and a full duplicate of a startup drive can potentially be used to boot the computer. A Retrospect "Backup" is a completely different kettle of fish. It creates a backup set, which uses a selected type of media (CD/DVD, removable media such as Zip disks, Tape, File or FTP Server). The backup data is stored in a proprietary form which only Retrospect is able to read. Retrospect maintains a catalog on your hard drive to keep track of what is in the backup set. This method supports incremental backups and options like encryption and compression. You can also set up multiple backup sets (e.g. to keep one copy offsite, or to maintain two complete backups to protect against media damage) and features like recylcing of old media after a while. CD/DVD, Tape and Removable Media backup set types are able to grow indefinitely by adding more pieces of media. A File backup is limited by the size of the drive on which it is stored. I assume the same applies to an FTP backup (I've never bothered trying one them). -- David Empson dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz
From: Jolly Roger on 3 Oct 2007 23:14
On 2007-10-03 19:37:43 -0500, The New Guy <replytogroup(a)here.thanks> said: > I'm trying a Duplicate backup. I wonder if its possible to do a smart > or incremental backup afterwards or do I need to continue with > duplication because I started with duplication? Don't bother using Retrospect for straight duplication. SuperDuper is king of duplication. Use Retrospect for network incremental backups, where it excels. -- Note: Please let me know if you send email to this address so that I can be sure your email doesn't get eaten by pobox.com's ultra-aggressive SPAM filter. Help improve Usenet: * Learn proper Usenet etiquette: http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html * Kill-file Google Groups: http://improve-usenet.org/ JR |