From: Jolly Roger on
On 2007-10-04 16:05:48 -0500, Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> said:

> In article
> <replytogroup-A18401.14551604102007(a)news.lga.highwinds-media.com>,
> The New Guy <replytogroup(a)here.thanks> wrote:
>
>>> Because most people want to (and should) back up their entire disk.
>>
>> But that takes a lot of time for most of us. So we don't do it
>> enough especially as its a resource hog. Especially if some of us
>> don't leave the machine on 24/7.
>
> Set your Mac to wake up at 5 am and shut down at 7 am; program your
> backup software to automatically back up at 5:15 am.

The last time I tried that, the computer went right back to sleep just
a minute or so later (maybe because I wasn't at the console moving the
mouse or typing?), which wasn't very helpful.

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From: =?ISO-8859-9?Q?Kir=E1ly?= on
Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
> > Set your Mac to wake up at 5 am and shut down at 7 am; program your
> > backup software to automatically back up at 5:15 am.
>
> The last time I tried that, the computer went right back to sleep just
> a minute or so later (maybe because I wasn't at the console moving the
> mouse or typing?), which wasn't very helpful.

That's because you have your Mac set to require a password upon wake from
sleep or screen saver. It goes back to sleep when nobody is around to
enter the password upon auto wake. The workaround I use is to fast user
switch to the login window before sleeping. Then when my Mac auto-wakes
it will stay awake.

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From: Daniel Cohen on
TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft(a)mac.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:39:09 -0500, Daniel Cohen wrote (in article
> <1i5gjmp.1092ckoqg49aN%danspam(a)f2s.com>):
>
> > By the way, though I currently use SuperDuper for cloning, I amy move to
> > Carbon Copy Cloner now the new version is out. Works with Tiger (I think
> > the old one didn't) and has a few advantages over SuperDuper.
>
> Would you elaborate on what those advantages are.

Have a look, play with it, and see for yourself. I haven't actually used
CCC yet.

One thing is that if one does not want to clone everything (for
instance, if one has movie or music files that are separately backed up)
it can be done with SuperDuper but the explanation of how to do it is a
bit complicated, whereas with CCC it seems easy. I think there are other
places where CCC is easier.
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From: Jolly Roger on
On 2007-10-04 16:19:34 -0500, me(a)home.spamsucks.ca (Kir�ly) said:

> Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>>> Set your Mac to wake up at 5 am and shut down at 7 am; program your
>>> backup software to automatically back up at 5:15 am.
>>
>> The last time I tried that, the computer went right back to sleep just
>> a minute or so later (maybe because I wasn't at the console moving the
>> mouse or typing?), which wasn't very helpful.
>
> That's because you have your Mac set to require a password upon wake from
> sleep or screen saver. It goes back to sleep when nobody is around to
> enter the password upon auto wake. The workaround I use is to fast user
> switch to the login window before sleeping. Then when my Mac auto-wakes
> it will stay awake.

I figured as much. I'm not willing to do without password protection.
I guess I'll have to try getting my wife to go to the login window when
she's done. I'm not sure that'll be a good solution though - even *I*
would tend to forget to do that every so often. For now I've resorted
to disabling computer sleep on that machine.

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Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
> I figured as much. I'm not willing to do without password protection.
> I guess I'll have to try getting my wife to go to the login window when
> she's done. I'm not sure that'll be a good solution though - even *I*
> would tend to forget to do that every so often. For now I've resorted
> to disabling computer sleep on that machine.

I programmed a keyboard shortcut to first switch to the login window and
then sleep the Mac. I wrote an Automator app to run two Terminal commands
to do each of the above, and used XKeys to launch that app when I press
F13. It works a treat.

The Terminal commands are:


/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu\
Extras/User.menu/Contents/Resources/CGSession -suspend

sleep 3

osascript -e 'tell application "System Events" to sleep'



Watch out for the line wrap on the first one - it should all be on one
line.

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