Bad Clusters vs. Bad Sectors
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From: Rod Speed on 13 Oct 2009 01:39 Ant wrote > Rod Speed wrote >>> Hmm, maybe I should run SpinRite v5 on that HDD later. >> Its completely useless now. > Really? How so? What it claims to be doing isnt even possible with modern hard drives. > I remember using it in the past and finding bad sectors. A SMART scan does that much better. >> The only thing that makes any sense anymore is the SMART data.
From: Arno on 13 Oct 2009 09:41 Ant <ant(a)zimage.comant> wrote: > On 10/12/2009 12:00 PM PT, Rod Speed typed: >>> Hmm, maybe I should run SpinRite v5 on that HDD later. >> >> Its completely useless now. > Really? How so? I remember using it in the past and finding bad sectors. SpinRite does find bad sectors, but not more or others than a long SMART selftest. Before disk selftests SpinRite had its justification. Today it has none. Arno >> The only thing that makes any sense anymore is the SMART data. > -- > "It is said that the lonely eagle flies to the mountain peaks while the > lowly ant crawls the ground, but cannot the soul of the ant soar as high > as the eagle?" --unknown > /\___/\ > / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) > | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net > \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: philpi(a)earthlink.netANT > ( ) or ANTant(a)zimage.com > Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer.
From: Ant on 14 Oct 2009 01:28 On 10/12/2009 10:39 PM PT, Rod Speed typed: > Ant wrote >> Rod Speed wrote > >>>> Hmm, maybe I should run SpinRite v5 on that HDD later. > >>> Its completely useless now. > >> Really? How so? > > What it claims to be doing isnt even possible with modern hard drives. How old were the the modern HDDs started? I can't remember when SMART started. I think my former Quantum Fireball 6.4 GB EIDE HDD had a simple SMART. >> I remember using it in the past and finding bad sectors. > > A SMART scan does that much better. OK. -- "Above ground I shall be food for kites; below I shall be food for mole-crickets and ants. Why rob one to feed the other?" --Juang-zu (4th Century B.C.) /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: philpi(a)earthlink.netANT ( ) or ANTant(a)zimage.com Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer.
From: Ant on 14 Oct 2009 01:29 On 10/13/2009 6:41 AM PT, Arno typed: >>>> Hmm, maybe I should run SpinRite v5 on that HDD later. >>> Its completely useless now. > >> Really? How so? I remember using it in the past and finding bad sectors. > > SpinRite does find bad sectors, but not more or others than > a long SMART selftest. Before disk selftests SpinRite had its > justification. Today it has none. OK, I have used smartctl's long tests before. I assume that was enough to find them. -- "What reason, like the careful ant, draws laboriously together, the wind of accident sometimes collects in a moment." --Friedrich von Schiller /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: philpi(a)earthlink.netANT ( ) or ANTant(a)zimage.com Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer.
From: Rod Speed on 14 Oct 2009 01:44
Ant wrote > Rod Speed wrote >> Ant wrote >>> Rod Speed wrote >>>>> Hmm, maybe I should run SpinRite v5 on that HDD later. >>>> Its completely useless now. >>> Really? How so? >> What it claims to be doing isnt even possible with modern hard drives. > How old were the the modern HDDs started? The last time what it claims to be able to do was possible was with stepper motor head actuator drives, mostly MFM and RLL and a very few of the first IDEs. > I can't remember when SMART started. That varied with the manufacturer. > I think my former Quantum Fireball 6.4 GB EIDE HDD had a simple SMART. Yeah, most of that era did. >>> I remember using it in the past and finding bad sectors. >> A SMART scan does that much better. > OK. |