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From: Ant on 4 Oct 2009 18:15 Hello! Am I understanding correctly that these terms are basically the same? If so, then why did my client's updated Windows 2000 SP4's chkdsk (/r /f parameters and rebooted to run it) on a HDD (NTFS) in an old Dell Optiplex system say there was a bad cluster and was able to move a file to a better place, but I rerun chkdsk in Windows 2000 and ran a chkdsk (no parameters) and it found 0 KB of bad sector? Thank you in advance. :) -- "I used to own an ant farm but had to give it up. I couldn't find tractors small enough to fit it." --Steven Wright /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: philpi(a)earthlink.netANT ( ) or ANTant(a)zimage.com Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer.
From: Rod Speed on 4 Oct 2009 18:34 Ant wrote > Am I understanding correctly that these terms are basically the same? Nope. Sectors are what the physical drive has. Clusters are an OS level concept, a cluster is more than one sector. > If so, then why did my client's updated Windows 2000 SP4's chkdsk (/r > /f parameters and rebooted to run it) on a HDD (NTFS) in an old Dell > Optiplex system say there was a bad cluster and was able to move a > file to a better place, but I rerun chkdsk in Windows 2000 and ran a > chkdsk (no parameters) and it found 0 KB of bad sector? Because that stuff also has the drive itself doing reallocation of bad sectors behind its back.
From: Ant on 4 Oct 2009 18:47 On 10/4/2009 3:34 PM PT, Rod Speed typed: >> Am I understanding correctly that these terms are basically the same? > > Nope. Sectors are what the physical drive has. > > Clusters are an OS level concept, a cluster is more than one sector. > >> If so, then why did my client's updated Windows 2000 SP4's chkdsk (/r >> /f parameters and rebooted to run it) on a HDD (NTFS) in an old Dell >> Optiplex system say there was a bad cluster and was able to move a >> file to a better place, but I rerun chkdsk in Windows 2000 and ran a >> chkdsk (no parameters) and it found 0 KB of bad sector? > > Because that stuff also has the drive itself doing reallocation of bad sectors behind its back. So shouldn't Windows 2000 SP4's chkdsk be marking bad sector then? I am confused. I ran the latest Windows smartctl's full test to be sure before chkdsks and saw: smartctl version 5.38 [i686-mingw32-2000-sp4] Copyright (C) 2002-8 Bruce Allen Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/ === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family: Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 8 family Device Model: Maxtor 6E040L0 Serial Number: E155KPHE Firmware Version: NAR61590 User Capacity: 41,110,142,976 bytes Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] ATA Version is: 7 ATA Standard is: ATA/ATAPI-7 T13 1532D revision 0 Local Time is: Sun Oct 04 14:10:05 2009 PDT SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. Enabled status cached by OS, trying SMART RETURN STATUS cmd. SMART support is: Enabled === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: Offline data collection status: (0x82) Offline data collection activity was completed without error. Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled. Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed without error or no self-test has ever been run. Total time to complete Offline data collection: (1021) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate. Auto Offline data collection on/off support. Suspend Offline collection upon new command. Offline surface scan supported. Self-test supported. No Conveyance Self-test supported. Selective Self-test supported. SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering power-saving mode. Supports SMART auto save timer. Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. No General Purpose Logging support. Short self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes. Extended self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 17) minutes. SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027 227 221 063 Pre-fail Always - 5662 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 253 253 000 Old_age Always - 1252 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 252 252 063 Pre-fail Always - 9 6 Read_Channel_Margin 0x0001 253 253 100 Pre-fail Offline - 0 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000a 253 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0027 246 240 187 Pre-fail Always - 46978 9 Power_On_Minutes 0x0032 242 242 000 Old_age Always - 863h+11m 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x002b 253 252 157 Pre-fail Always - 0 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x002b 253 252 223 Pre-fail Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 250 250 000 Old_age Always - 1251 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 1248 193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 253 253 000 Old_age Always - 2742 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0032 253 253 000 Old_age Always - 27 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x000a 253 252 000 Old_age Always - 8157 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0008 251 251 000 Old_age Offline - 2 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0008 253 253 000 Old_age Offline - 2 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0008 252 252 000 Old_age Offline - 1 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0008 199 199 000 Old_age Offline - 0 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x000a 253 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 201 Soft_Read_Error_Rate 0x000a 253 252 000 Old_age Always - 16 202 TA_Increase_Count 0x000a 253 251 000 Old_age Always - 0 203 Run_Out_Cancel 0x000b 253 252 180 Pre-fail Always - 38 204 Shock_Count_Write_Opern 0x000a 253 251 000 Old_age Always - 0 205 Shock_Rate_Write_Opern 0x000a 253 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 207 Spin_High_Current 0x002a 253 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 208 Spin_Buzz 0x002a 253 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 209 Offline_Seek_Performnce 0x0024 188 187 000 Old_age Offline - 0 99 Unknown_Attribute 0x0004 253 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0 100 Unknown_Attribute 0x0004 253 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0 101 Unknown_Attribute 0x0004 253 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0 SMART Error Log Version: 1 Warning: ATA error count 17 inconsistent with error log pointer 5 ATA Error Count: 17 (device log contains only the most recent five errors) CR = Command Register [HEX] FR = Features Register [HEX] SC = Sector Count Register [HEX] SN = Sector Number Register [HEX] CL = Cylinder Low Register [HEX] CH = Cylinder High Register [HEX] DH = Device/Head Register [HEX] DC = Device Command Register [HEX] ER = Error register [HEX] ST = Status register [HEX] Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes, SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days. Error 17 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 3871 hours (161 days + 7 hours) When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was in an unknown state. After command completion occurred, registers were: ER ST SC SN CL CH DH -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 40 51 06 67 a2 68 e2 Error: UNC 6 sectors at LBA = 0x0268a267 = 40411751 Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- -------------------- c8 00 22 67 a2 68 e2 00 04:55:32.656 READ DMA c8 00 80 81 02 ab e1 00 04:55:32.656 READ DMA c8 00 08 09 02 ab e1 00 04:55:32.640 READ DMA c8 00 1e 13 ee 30 e1 00 04:55:32.640 READ DMA c8 00 08 c5 a3 11 e1 00 04:55:32.624 READ DMA Error 16 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 1858 hours (77 days + 10 hours) When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was in an unknown state. After command completion occurred, registers were: ER ST SC SN CL CH DH -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 40 51 62 db a5 68 e2 Error: UNC 98 sectors at LBA = 0x0268a5db = 40412635 Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- -------------------- c8 00 67 db a5 68 e2 00 00:49:20.528 READ DMA c8 00 08 89 ae 65 e0 00 00:49:20.512 READ DMA c8 00 0f 42 ae 65 e0 00 00:49:20.512 READ DMA c8 00 02 d6 d4 75 e0 00 00:49:20.512 READ DMA c8 00 03 f5 78 69 e2 00 00:49:20.512 READ DMA Error 15 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 1455 hours (60 days + 15 hours) When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was in an unknown state. After command completion occurred, registers were: ER ST SC SN CL CH DH -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 40 51 05 a8 fb 13 e0 Error: UNC 5 sectors at LBA = 0x0013fba8 = 1309608 Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- -------------------- c8 00 08 a8 fb 13 e0 00 01:04:55.104 READ DMA ca 00 08 3c f4 64 e2 00 01:04:55.104 WRITE DMA c8 00 80 d0 fb 13 e0 00 01:04:55.104 READ DMA c8 00 08 a8 fb 13 e0 00 01:04:53.968 READ DMA ca 00 80 03 de 72 e2 00 01:04:53.968 WRITE DMA Error 14 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 1455 hours (60 days + 15 hours) When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was in an unknown state. After command completion occurred, registers were: ER ST SC SN CL CH DH -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 01 51 05 a8 fb 13 e0 Error: AMNF 5 sectors at LBA = 0x0013fba8 = 1309608 Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- -------------------- c8 00 08 a8 fb 13 e0 00 01:04:53.968 READ DMA ca 00 80 03 de 72 e2 00 01:04:53.968 WRITE DMA ca 00 80 4b e2 70 e2 00 01:04:53.968 WRITE DMA ca 00 08 2c f4 64 e2 00 01:04:53.968 WRITE DMA c8 00 20 b0 fb 13 e0 00 01:04:53.968 READ DMA Error 13 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 1455 hours (60 days + 15 hours) When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was in an unknown state. After command completion occurred, registers were: ER ST SC SN CL CH DH -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 01 51 05 a8 fb 13 e0 Error: AMNF 5 sectors at LBA = 0x0013fba8 = 1309608 Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- -------------------- c8 00 08 a8 fb 13 e0 00 01:03:47.296 READ DMA ca 00 08 44 f4 64 e2 00 01:03:47.280 WRITE DMA c8 00 28 a8 fb 13 e0 00 01:03:46.192 READ DMA c8 00 08 a0 fb 13 e0 00 01:03:46.192 READ DMA ca 00 08 2c 16 02 e0 00 01:03:46.160 WRITE DMA SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error # 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 0 - SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1 SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS 1 0 0 Not_testing 2 0 0 Not_testing 3 0 0 Not_testing 4 0 0 Not_testing 5 0 0 Not_testing Selective self-test flags (0x0): After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk. If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay. The reason why I ran them because I saw this earlier today: Event Type: Error Event Source: Disk Event Category: None Event ID: 7 Date: 10/3/2009 Time: 11:42:47 AM User: N/A Computer: DELLOPTIPLEX Description: The device, \Device\Harddisk0\DR0, has a bad block. Data: 0000: 03 00 18 00 01 00 72 00 ......r. 0008: 00 00 00 00 07 00 04 c0 .......� 0010: 00 01 00 00 9c 00 00 c0 ....�..� 0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........ 0020: 00 ce 44 d1 04 00 00 00 .�D�.... 0028: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........ 0030: 00 00 00 00 28 00 00 00 ....(... 0038: 02 84 00 00 00 00 03 00 .�...... SMART results look bad for those errors. SMART said passed when I did a quick check. I wonder if that is why Windows was feeling sluggish lately. -- "The life of an ant and that of my child should be granted equal consideration." --Michael W. 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From: Rod Speed on 4 Oct 2009 19:42 Ant wrote > Rod Speed wrote >>> Am I understanding correctly that these terms are basically the same? >> Nope. Sectors are what the physical drive has. >> Clusters are an OS level concept, a cluster is more than one sector. >>> If so, then why did my client's updated Windows 2000 SP4's chkdsk >>> (/r /f parameters and rebooted to run it) on a HDD (NTFS) in an old >>> Dell Optiplex system say there was a bad cluster and was able to >>> move a file to a better place, but I rerun chkdsk in Windows 2000 >>> and ran a chkdsk (no parameters) and it found 0 KB of bad sector? >> Because that stuff also has the drive itself doing reallocation of bad sectors behind its back. > So shouldn't Windows 2000 SP4's chkdsk be marking bad sector then? No, because it deals with clusters, not sectors. > I am confused. You are indeed. > I ran the latest Windows smartctl's full test to be sure before chkdsks and saw: > smartctl version 5.38 [i686-mingw32-2000-sp4] Copyright (C) 2002-8 > Bruce Allen > Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/ > === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === > Model Family: Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 8 family > Device Model: Maxtor 6E040L0 > Serial Number: E155KPHE > Firmware Version: NAR61590 > User Capacity: 41,110,142,976 bytes > Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] > ATA Version is: 7 > ATA Standard is: ATA/ATAPI-7 T13 1532D revision 0 > Local Time is: Sun Oct 04 14:10:05 2009 PDT > SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. > Enabled status cached by OS, trying SMART RETURN > STATUS cmd. > SMART support is: Enabled > === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === > SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED > General SMART Values: > Offline data collection status: (0x82) Offline data collection > activity was completed without error. > Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled. > Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine > completed > without error or no self-test has ever > been run. > Total time to complete Offline > data collection: (1021) seconds. > Offline data collection > capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate. > Auto Offline data collection on/off support. > Suspend Offline collection upon new > command. > Offline surface scan supported. > Self-test supported. > No Conveyance Self-test supported. > Selective Self-test supported. > SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before > entering power-saving mode. > Supports SMART auto save timer. > Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. > No General Purpose Logging support. > Short self-test routine > recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes. > Extended self-test routine > recommended polling time: ( 17) minutes. > > SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 > Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: > ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE > UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE > 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027 227 221 063 Pre-fail > Always - 5662 > 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 253 253 000 Old_age > Always - 1252 > 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 252 252 063 Pre-fail > Always - 9 Thats quite a few reallocated sectors. > 6 Read_Channel_Margin 0x0001 253 253 100 Pre-fail > Offline - 0 > 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000a 253 252 000 Old_age > Always - 0 > 8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0027 246 240 187 Pre-fail > Always - 46978 > 9 Power_On_Minutes 0x0032 242 242 000 Old_age > Always - 863h+11m > 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x002b 253 252 157 Pre-fail > Always - 0 > 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x002b 253 252 223 Pre-fail > Always - 0 > 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 250 250 000 Old_age > Always - 1251 > 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 1248 > 193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 253 253 000 Old_age Always - 2742 > 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0032 253 253 000 Old_age Always - 27 > 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x000a 253 252 000 Old_age Always - 8157 > 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0008 251 251 000 Old_age > Offline - 2 > 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0008 253 253 000 Old_age > Offline - 2 With some more pending. > 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0008 252 252 000 Old_age > Offline - 1 > 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0008 199 199 000 Old_age > Offline - 0 > 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x000a 253 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 > 201 Soft_Read_Error_Rate 0x000a 253 252 000 Old_age Always - 16 > 202 TA_Increase_Count 0x000a 253 251 000 Old_age Always - 0 > 203 Run_Out_Cancel 0x000b 253 252 180 Pre-fail Always - 38 > 204 Shock_Count_Write_Opern 0x000a 253 251 000 Old_age Always - 0 > 205 Shock_Rate_Write_Opern 0x000a 253 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 > 207 Spin_High_Current 0x002a 253 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 > 208 Spin_Buzz 0x002a 253 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 > 209 Offline_Seek_Performnce 0x0024 188 187 000 Old_age > Offline - 0 > 99 Unknown_Attribute 0x0004 253 253 000 Old_age > Offline - 0 > 100 Unknown_Attribute 0x0004 253 253 000 Old_age > Offline - 0 > 101 Unknown_Attribute 0x0004 253 253 000 Old_age > Offline - 0 > SMART Error Log Version: 1 > Warning: ATA error count 17 inconsistent with error log pointer 5 > ATA Error Count: 17 (device log contains only the most recent five > errors) CR = Command Register [HEX] > FR = Features Register [HEX] > SC = Sector Count Register [HEX] > SN = Sector Number Register [HEX] > CL = Cylinder Low Register [HEX] > CH = Cylinder High Register [HEX] > DH = Device/Head Register [HEX] > DC = Device Command Register [HEX] > ER = Error register [HEX] > ST = Status register [HEX] > Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as > DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes, > SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days. > > Error 17 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 3871 hours (161 days + 7 > hours) When the command that caused the error occurred, the device > was in an unknown state. > > After command completion occurred, registers were: > ER ST SC SN CL CH DH > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > 40 51 06 67 a2 68 e2 Error: UNC 6 sectors at LBA = 0x0268a267 = > 40411751 > Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: > CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- -------------------- > c8 00 22 67 a2 68 e2 00 04:55:32.656 READ DMA > c8 00 80 81 02 ab e1 00 04:55:32.656 READ DMA > c8 00 08 09 02 ab e1 00 04:55:32.640 READ DMA > c8 00 1e 13 ee 30 e1 00 04:55:32.640 READ DMA > c8 00 08 c5 a3 11 e1 00 04:55:32.624 READ DMA > > Error 16 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 1858 hours (77 days + 10 > hours) When the command that caused the error occurred, the device > was in an unknown state. > > After command completion occurred, registers were: > ER ST SC SN CL CH DH > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > 40 51 62 db a5 68 e2 Error: UNC 98 sectors at LBA = 0x0268a5db = > 40412635 > > Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: > CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- -------------------- > c8 00 67 db a5 68 e2 00 00:49:20.528 READ DMA > c8 00 08 89 ae 65 e0 00 00:49:20.512 READ DMA > c8 00 0f 42 ae 65 e0 00 00:49:20.512 READ DMA > c8 00 02 d6 d4 75 e0 00 00:49:20.512 READ DMA > c8 00 03 f5 78 69 e2 00 00:49:20.512 READ DMA > > Error 15 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 1455 hours (60 days + 15 > hours) When the command that caused the error occurred, the device > was in an unknown state. > > After command completion occurred, registers were: > ER ST SC SN CL CH DH > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > 40 51 05 a8 fb 13 e0 Error: UNC 5 sectors at LBA = 0x0013fba8 = > 1309608 > Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: > CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- -------------------- > c8 00 08 a8 fb 13 e0 00 01:04:55.104 READ DMA > ca 00 08 3c f4 64 e2 00 01:04:55.104 WRITE DMA > c8 00 80 d0 fb 13 e0 00 01:04:55.104 READ DMA > c8 00 08 a8 fb 13 e0 00 01:04:53.968 READ DMA > ca 00 80 03 de 72 e2 00 01:04:53.968 WRITE DMA > > Error 14 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 1455 hours (60 days + 15 > hours) When the command that caused the error occurred, the device > was in an unknown state. > > After command completion occurred, registers were: > ER ST SC SN CL CH DH > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > 01 51 05 a8 fb 13 e0 Error: AMNF 5 sectors at LBA = 0x0013fba8 = > 1309608 > Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: > CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- -------------------- > c8 00 08 a8 fb 13 e0 00 01:04:53.968 READ DMA > ca 00 80 03 de 72 e2 00 01:04:53.968 WRITE DMA > ca 00 80 4b e2 70 e2 00 01:04:53.968 WRITE DMA > ca 00 08 2c f4 64 e2 00 01:04:53.968 WRITE DMA > c8 00 20 b0 fb 13 e0 00 01:04:53.968 READ DMA > > Error 13 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 1455 hours (60 days + 15 > hours) When the command that caused the error occurred, the device > was in an unknown state. > > After command completion occurred, registers were: > ER ST SC SN CL CH DH > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > 01 51 05 a8 fb 13 e0 Error: AMNF 5 sectors at LBA = 0x0013fba8 = > 1309608 > Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: > CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- -------------------- > c8 00 08 a8 fb 13 e0 00 01:03:47.296 READ DMA > ca 00 08 44 f4 64 e2 00 01:03:47.280 WRITE DMA > c8 00 28 a8 fb 13 e0 00 01:03:46.192 READ DMA > c8 00 08 a0 fb 13 e0 00 01:03:46.192 READ DMA > ca 00 08 2c 16 02 e0 00 01:03:46.160 WRITE DMA > > SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 > Num Test_Description Status Remaining > LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error > # 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 0 > - > > SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1 > SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS > 1 0 0 Not_testing > 2 0 0 Not_testing > 3 0 0 Not_testing > 4 0 0 Not_testing > 5 0 0 Not_testing > Selective self-test flags (0x0): > After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk. > If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute > delay. > The reason why I ran them because I saw this earlier today: > Event Type: Error > Event Source: Disk > Event Category: None > Event ID: 7 > Date: 10/3/2009 > Time: 11:42:47 AM > User: N/A > Computer: DELLOPTIPLEX > Description: > The device, \Device\Harddisk0\DR0, has a bad block. > Data: > 0000: 03 00 18 00 01 00 72 00 ......r. > 0008: 00 00 00 00 07 00 04 c0 .......� > 0010: 00 01 00 00 9c 00 00 c0 ....�..� > 0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........ > 0020: 00 ce 44 d1 04 00 00 00 .�D�.... > 0028: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........ > 0030: 00 00 00 00 28 00 00 00 ....(... > 0038: 02 84 00 00 00 00 03 00 .�...... > SMART results look bad for those errors. Particularly the reallocated sectors. > SMART said passed when I did a quick check. I ignore that stuff and concentrate on the raw values. > I wonder if that is why Windows was feeling sluggish lately. Likely retrying on the pending sectors.
From: Ant on 4 Oct 2009 20:10
On 10/4/2009 4:42 PM PT, Rod Speed typed: [snipped] >> SMART results look bad for those errors. > > Particularly the reallocated sectors. > >> SMART said passed when I did a quick check. > > I ignore that stuff and concentrate on the raw values. Hence, the quickie. ;) >> I wonder if that is why Windows was feeling sluggish lately. > > Likely retrying on the pending sectors. Does that mean a dying HDD and needs to replace right away? Here's the updated SMART results after I did two chkdsks and a smartctl full test request: smartctl version 5.38 [i686-mingw32-2000-sp4] Copyright (C) 2002-8 Bruce Allen Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/ === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family: Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 8 family Device Model: Maxtor 6E040L0 Serial Number: E155KPHE Firmware Version: NAR61590 User Capacity: 41,110,142,976 bytes Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] ATA Version is: 7 ATA Standard is: ATA/ATAPI-7 T13 1532D revision 0 Local Time is: Sun Oct 04 16:43:43 2009 PDT SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. Enabled status cached by OS, trying SMART RETURN STATUS cmd. SMART support is: Enabled === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: Offline data collection status: (0x82) Offline data collection activity was completed without error. Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled. Self-test execution status: ( 116) The previous self-test completed having the read element of the test failed. Total time to complete Offline data collection: (1021) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate. Auto Offline data collection on/off support. Suspend Offline collection upon new command. Offline surface scan supported. Self-test supported. No Conveyance Self-test supported. Selective Self-test supported. SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering power-saving mode. Supports SMART auto save timer. Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. No General Purpose Logging support. Short self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes. Extended self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 17) minutes. SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027 227 221 063 Pre-fail Always - 5662 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 253 253 000 Old_age Always - 1252 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 252 252 063 Pre-fail Always - 9 6 Read_Channel_Margin 0x0001 253 253 100 Pre-fail Offline - 0 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000a 253 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0027 246 240 187 Pre-fail Always - 41311 9 Power_On_Minutes 0x0032 242 242 000 Old_age Always - 865h+43m 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x002b 253 252 157 Pre-fail Always - 0 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x002b 253 252 223 Pre-fail Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 250 250 000 Old_age Always - 1251 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 1248 193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 253 253 000 Old_age Always - 2746 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0032 253 253 000 Old_age Always - 26 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x000a 253 252 000 Old_age Always - 8300 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0008 251 251 000 Old_age Offline - 2 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0008 253 253 000 Old_age Offline - 2 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0008 251 251 000 Old_age Offline - 2 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0008 199 199 000 Old_age Offline - 0 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x000a 253 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 201 Soft_Read_Error_Rate 0x000a 253 252 000 Old_age Always - 8 202 TA_Increase_Count 0x000a 253 251 000 Old_age Always - 0 203 Run_Out_Cancel 0x000b 253 252 180 Pre-fail Always - 29 204 Shock_Count_Write_Opern 0x000a 253 251 000 Old_age Always - 0 205 Shock_Rate_Write_Opern 0x000a 253 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 207 Spin_High_Current 0x002a 253 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 208 Spin_Buzz 0x002a 253 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 209 Offline_Seek_Performnce 0x0024 188 187 000 Old_age Offline - 0 99 Unknown_Attribute 0x0004 253 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0 100 Unknown_Attribute 0x0004 253 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0 101 Unknown_Attribute 0x0004 253 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0 SMART Error Log Version: 1 Warning: ATA error count 19 inconsistent with error log pointer 5 ATA Error Count: 19 (device log contains only the most recent five errors) CR = Command Register [HEX] FR = Features Register [HEX] SC = Sector Count Register [HEX] SN = Sector Number Register [HEX] CL = Cylinder Low Register [HEX] CH = Cylinder High Register [HEX] DH = Device/Head Register [HEX] DC = Device Command Register [HEX] ER = Error register [HEX] ST = Status register [HEX] Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes, SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days. Error 19 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 3881 hours (161 days + 17 hours) When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was in an unknown state. After command completion occurred, registers were: ER ST SC SN CL CH DH -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 40 51 01 83 a2 68 e2 Error: UNC 1 sectors at LBA = 0x0268a283 = 40411779 Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- -------------------- c8 00 01 83 a2 68 e2 00 02:14:10.592 READ DMA c8 00 01 82 a2 68 e2 00 02:14:10.592 READ DMA c8 00 01 81 a2 68 e2 00 02:14:10.592 READ DMA c8 00 01 80 a2 68 e2 00 02:14:10.592 READ DMA c8 00 01 7f a2 68 e2 00 02:14:10.592 READ DMA Error 18 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 3881 hours (161 days + 17 hours) When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was in an unknown state. After command completion occurred, registers were: ER ST SC SN CL CH DH -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 40 51 06 67 a2 68 e2 Error: UNC 6 sectors at LBA = 0x0268a267 = 40411751 Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- -------------------- c8 00 22 67 a2 68 e2 00 02:14:09.264 READ DMA c8 00 1e 13 ee 30 e1 00 02:14:09.248 READ DMA c8 00 1f f1 15 30 e1 00 02:14:09.248 READ DMA c8 00 1e 2f a8 27 e1 00 02:14:09.232 READ DMA c8 00 1f da e7 23 e1 00 02:14:09.232 READ DMA Error 17 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 3871 hours (161 days + 7 hours) When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was in an unknown state. After command completion occurred, registers were: ER ST SC SN CL CH DH -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 40 51 06 67 a2 68 e2 Error: UNC 6 sectors at LBA = 0x0268a267 = 40411751 Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- -------------------- c8 00 22 67 a2 68 e2 00 04:55:32.656 READ DMA c8 00 80 81 02 ab e1 00 04:55:32.656 READ DMA c8 00 08 09 02 ab e1 00 04:55:32.640 READ DMA c8 00 1e 13 ee 30 e1 00 04:55:32.640 READ DMA c8 00 08 c5 a3 11 e1 00 04:55:32.624 READ DMA Error 16 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 1858 hours (77 days + 10 hours) When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was in an unknown state. After command completion occurred, registers were: ER ST SC SN CL CH DH -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 40 51 62 db a5 68 e2 Error: UNC 98 sectors at LBA = 0x0268a5db = 40412635 Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- -------------------- c8 00 67 db a5 68 e2 00 00:49:20.528 READ DMA c8 00 08 89 ae 65 e0 00 00:49:20.512 READ DMA c8 00 0f 42 ae 65 e0 00 00:49:20.512 READ DMA c8 00 02 d6 d4 75 e0 00 00:49:20.512 READ DMA c8 00 03 f5 78 69 e2 00 00:49:20.512 READ DMA Error 15 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 1455 hours (60 days + 15 hours) When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was in an unknown state. After command completion occurred, registers were: ER ST SC SN CL CH DH -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 40 51 05 a8 fb 13 e0 Error: UNC 5 sectors at LBA = 0x0013fba8 = 1309608 Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- -------------------- c8 00 08 a8 fb 13 e0 00 01:04:55.104 READ DMA ca 00 08 3c f4 64 e2 00 01:04:55.104 WRITE DMA c8 00 80 d0 fb 13 e0 00 01:04:55.104 READ DMA c8 00 08 a8 fb 13 e0 00 01:04:53.968 READ DMA ca 00 80 03 de 72 e2 00 01:04:53.968 WRITE DMA SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error # 1 Extended offline Completed: read failure 40% 3882 49793 # 2 Extended offline Interrupted (host reset) 70% 3881 - # 3 Short offline Completed without error 00% 0 - SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1 SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS 1 0 0 Not_testing 2 0 0 Not_testing 3 0 0 Not_testing 4 0 0 Not_testing 5 0 0 Not_testing Selective self-test flags (0x0): After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk. 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