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From: Joerg on 1 Aug 2010 10:29 Grant wrote: > On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 12:33:31 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> Grant wrote: > [Gerber files] >>> Pcad could generate them, but our local PCB makers couldn't use the >>> files, needed plots and drill guides done the old manual way. >>> >> Time to find a more modern PCB maker then. Unless they cook up a mean >> chili or there's a good brewpub next door :-) > > Nah, this was 25 years ago. > Hmm, even then we used Gerber. Although we sometimes sent the diskettes by mail. The truly floppy type, 5-1/4". -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: Joerg on 1 Aug 2010 10:30 Grant wrote: > On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 12:26:50 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> Joel Koltner wrote: >>> "Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:8bhe6gFuriU1(a)mid.individual.net... >>>> Grant wrote: >>>>> Online help in normal windows form, with this at the end: >>>>> "Copyright © 1980 - 2010 WestDev Ltd. All rights reserved. E & O E" >>>> Right now using Eagle which is great but lacks schematic hierarchy. >>>> That's actually all I need to know, whether DesignSpark has that. >>>> Otherwise a switch won't make much sense. >>> WestDev is the company that makes Pulsonix and EasyPC; Advanced >>> Circuits' (4pcb.com) "PCB Artist" is actually just EasyPC in an OEM "skin." >>> >>> Hence I suspect that DesignSpark is as well. >>> >>> Assuming that's the case and that they haven't crippled any of its >>> features, it will support hierarchy. See this link for the Real McCoy's >>> feature set: http://www.numberone.com/easy_pc_v14.asp >>> >> But how could RS give it away for free if the product costs 447 pounds >> (UK)? Unless it's one of those limited pin number versions, that >> wouldn't be very useful. > > Might be market share intro, program opens website during startup, leaves > me a bit wary of using the thing, could be crippled any time, requires > registration. Time-unknown demo? Dunno. > > Too good to be true? Perhaps ;) > Ok, so it must see a web connection to start. That wouldn't be software I'd like to use. Any sensitive kind of design can't. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: Sergey Kubushyn on 1 Aug 2010 14:47 Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > Grant wrote: >> On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 12:33:31 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >> >>> Grant wrote: >> [Gerber files] >>>> Pcad could generate them, but our local PCB makers couldn't use the >>>> files, needed plots and drill guides done the old manual way. >>>> >>> Time to find a more modern PCB maker then. Unless they cook up a mean >>> chili or there's a good brewpub next door :-) >> >> Nah, this was 25 years ago. >> > > Hmm, even then we used Gerber. Although we sometimes sent the diskettes > by mail. The truly floppy type, 5-1/4". The really truly one was 8" :) 5-1/4" was "mini"... --- ****************************************************************** * KSI(a)home KOI8 Net < > The impossible we do immediately. * * Las Vegas NV, USA < > Miracles require 24-hour notice. * ******************************************************************
From: Joerg on 1 Aug 2010 16:11 Sergey Kubushyn wrote: > Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >> Grant wrote: >>> On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 12:33:31 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> Grant wrote: >>> [Gerber files] >>>>> Pcad could generate them, but our local PCB makers couldn't use the >>>>> files, needed plots and drill guides done the old manual way. >>>>> >>>> Time to find a more modern PCB maker then. Unless they cook up a mean >>>> chili or there's a good brewpub next door :-) >>> Nah, this was 25 years ago. >>> >> Hmm, even then we used Gerber. Although we sometimes sent the diskettes >> by mail. The truly floppy type, 5-1/4". > > The really truly one was 8" :) 5-1/4" was "mini"... > Yes, the Racal Redac CAD at my university stored onto 8" floppies. But I never used it because all the reasonable time slots were always booked out. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: Grant on 1 Aug 2010 20:22
On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 07:30:48 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >Grant wrote: >> On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 12:26:50 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >> >>> Joel Koltner wrote: >>>> "Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>>> news:8bhe6gFuriU1(a)mid.individual.net... >>>>> Grant wrote: >>>>>> Online help in normal windows form, with this at the end: >>>>>> "Copyright © 1980 - 2010 WestDev Ltd. All rights reserved. E & O E" >>>>> Right now using Eagle which is great but lacks schematic hierarchy. >>>>> That's actually all I need to know, whether DesignSpark has that. >>>>> Otherwise a switch won't make much sense. >>>> WestDev is the company that makes Pulsonix and EasyPC; Advanced >>>> Circuits' (4pcb.com) "PCB Artist" is actually just EasyPC in an OEM "skin." >>>> >>>> Hence I suspect that DesignSpark is as well. >>>> >>>> Assuming that's the case and that they haven't crippled any of its >>>> features, it will support hierarchy. See this link for the Real McCoy's >>>> feature set: http://www.numberone.com/easy_pc_v14.asp >>>> >>> But how could RS give it away for free if the product costs 447 pounds >>> (UK)? Unless it's one of those limited pin number versions, that >>> wouldn't be very useful. >> >> Might be market share intro, program opens website during startup, leaves >> me a bit wary of using the thing, could be crippled any time, requires >> registration. Time-unknown demo? Dunno. >> >> Too good to be true? Perhaps ;) >> > >Ok, so it must see a web connection to start. That wouldn't be software >I'd like to use. Any sensitive kind of design can't. Too right, it's why I haven't done anything more than take a look. Grant. |