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From: David B. on 20 Jan 2010 09:09 you don't say -- -- "Arno" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message news:7rntsoF5s3U1(a)mid.individual.net... > In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage David B. <mail(a)nomail.net> wrote: >> Don't really need it, by the time a PC hits my bench the drive is usually >> to >> the point where even the geek squad could tell it's bad. > > Well, there is "bad" and "bad". Not all storege failures > are due to a bad drive. It can also be interface errors, bad > mounting, a marginal PSU. And the drive can have bad secotrs, > seek problems, can have died from heat, etc. > > Arno > >> -- > > >> -- >> "Arno" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message >> news:7rmiq8Fo52U3(a)mid.individual.net... >>> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage David B. <mail(a)nomail.net> wrote: >>>> A smart report is useless, more often than not when I find a bad hard >>>> drive. >>>> smart believes there is no problem with the drive, it's unreliable at >>>> best. >>> >>> Nobody said to look at the "smart status", which is pretty useless. >>> Hovever the concrete values of the individual SMART attributes are >>> not. Seems you are not using 99% of what SMART offers. >>> >>> Arno >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> -- >>> >>> >>>> -- >>>> "Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67(a)spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>> news:4b55ca94$1(a)news.bnb-lp.com... >>>>> Gary wrote: >>>>>> What does it usually mean when I run a disk scan for bad sectors on c >>>>>> drive and the result is "Windows was unable to complete the disk >>>>>> scan" >>>>>> >>>>>> The symptom is a blue screen saying that there is most likely a bad >>>>>> piece >>>>>> of hardware. >>>>> >>>>> Download the free Everest utilities, from the following website: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.lavalys.com/ >>>>> >>>>> Run the Storage -> SMART report on the appropriate hard drive, and >>>>> post >>>>> the results to your reply. >>>>> >>>>> Yousuf Khan >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Arno Wagner, Dr. sc. techn., Dipl. Inform., CISSP -- Email: >>> arno(a)wagner.name >>> GnuPG: ID: 1E25338F FP: 0C30 5782 9D93 F785 E79C 0296 797F 6B50 1E25 >>> 338F >>> ---- >>> Cuddly UI's are the manifestation of wishful thinking. -- Dylan Evans > > > -- > Arno Wagner, Dr. sc. techn., Dipl. Inform., CISSP -- Email: > arno(a)wagner.name > GnuPG: ID: 1E25338F FP: 0C30 5782 9D93 F785 E79C 0296 797F 6B50 1E25 > 338F > ---- > Cuddly UI's are the manifestation of wishful thinking. -- Dylan Evans
From: Arno on 20 Jan 2010 18:15 In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage David B. <mail(a)nomail.net> wrote: > you don't say What is the point of your postings so far? Arno > -- > -- > "Arno" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message > news:7rntsoF5s3U1(a)mid.individual.net... >> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage David B. <mail(a)nomail.net> wrote: >>> Don't really need it, by the time a PC hits my bench the drive is usually >>> to >>> the point where even the geek squad could tell it's bad. >> >> Well, there is "bad" and "bad". Not all storege failures >> are due to a bad drive. It can also be interface errors, bad >> mounting, a marginal PSU. And the drive can have bad secotrs, >> seek problems, can have died from heat, etc. >> >> Arno >> >>> -- >> >> >>> -- >>> "Arno" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message >>> news:7rmiq8Fo52U3(a)mid.individual.net... >>>> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage David B. <mail(a)nomail.net> wrote: >>>>> A smart report is useless, more often than not when I find a bad hard >>>>> drive. >>>>> smart believes there is no problem with the drive, it's unreliable at >>>>> best. >>>> >>>> Nobody said to look at the "smart status", which is pretty useless. >>>> Hovever the concrete values of the individual SMART attributes are >>>> not. Seems you are not using 99% of what SMART offers. >>>> >>>> Arno >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> "Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67(a)spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:4b55ca94$1(a)news.bnb-lp.com... >>>>>> Gary wrote: >>>>>>> What does it usually mean when I run a disk scan for bad sectors on c >>>>>>> drive and the result is "Windows was unable to complete the disk >>>>>>> scan" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The symptom is a blue screen saying that there is most likely a bad >>>>>>> piece >>>>>>> of hardware. >>>>>> >>>>>> Download the free Everest utilities, from the following website: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.lavalys.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Run the Storage -> SMART report on the appropriate hard drive, and >>>>>> post >>>>>> the results to your reply. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yousuf Khan >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Arno Wagner, Dr. sc. techn., Dipl. Inform., CISSP -- Email: >>>> arno(a)wagner.name >>>> GnuPG: ID: 1E25338F FP: 0C30 5782 9D93 F785 E79C 0296 797F 6B50 1E25 >>>> 338F >>>> ---- >>>> Cuddly UI's are the manifestation of wishful thinking. -- Dylan Evans >> >> >> -- >> Arno Wagner, Dr. sc. techn., Dipl. Inform., CISSP -- Email: >> arno(a)wagner.name >> GnuPG: ID: 1E25338F FP: 0C30 5782 9D93 F785 E79C 0296 797F 6B50 1E25 >> 338F >> ---- >> Cuddly UI's are the manifestation of wishful thinking. -- Dylan Evans -- Arno Wagner, Dr. sc. techn., Dipl. Inform., CISSP -- Email: arno(a)wagner.name GnuPG: ID: 1E25338F FP: 0C30 5782 9D93 F785 E79C 0296 797F 6B50 1E25 338F ---- Cuddly UI's are the manifestation of wishful thinking. -- Dylan Evans
From: Cronos on 21 Jan 2010 06:48 Rod Speed wrote: > Wrong. You do need to be able to interpret the raw data and not > just mindlessly look at the OKs, and when you do that, you can often > see a failing hard drive from the number of reallocated sectors etc. Yes well, us idiots that can't fight their way out of a wet paper bag like to be shown the error with pretty pictures, and HDTune does just that. But I see HDTune is no longer free, has trial version or pay for version. Good thing I downloaded it when it was free.
From: Cronos on 21 Jan 2010 06:52 Yousuf Khan wrote: >>But the SMART raw data fields > require human intelligence to interpret. Intelligent people don't sit around yapping about HDDs all day. They spend it reading Kafka, Hesse, Sarte, etc. I think you mean, requires knowledge and not "intelligence". Anyway, no way am I going to credit Rod Speed as an intelligent being. ;)
From: Gerry on 21 Jan 2010 07:07
Cronos You were saying -"HDTune is no longer free"? http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4130.html -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Cronos" <cronos(a)sphere.invalid> wrote in message news:hj9eto$6hn$5(a)news.eternal-september.org... > Rod Speed wrote: > >> Wrong. You do need to be able to interpret the raw data and not >> just mindlessly look at the OKs, and when you do that, you can often >> see a failing hard drive from the number of reallocated sectors etc. > > Yes well, us idiots that can't fight their way out of a wet paper bag > like to be shown the error with pretty pictures, and HDTune does just > that. But I see HDTune is no longer free, has trial version or pay for > version. Good thing I downloaded it when it was free. |