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From: Arno on 21 Jan 2010 08:09 In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Cronos <cronos(a)sphere.invalid> wrote: > Yousuf Khan wrote: >>>But the SMART raw data fields >> require human intelligence to interpret. > Intelligent people don't sit around yapping about HDDs all day. They > spend it reading Kafka, Hesse, Sarte, etc. I think you mean, requires > knowledge and not "intelligence". Anyway, no way am I going to credit > Rod Speed as an intelligent being. ;) I found both Kafka and Hesse to be exceedingly boring and often obvious. Quite a waste of time. Did not try Sartre. What it takes is intelligence to recognize it is actually a difficult problem (which is rather hard for many people, obviously) and experience to give intelligence something to work with. Knowledge does not really come into it besides that. otherwise you could just read up oh how to do it. Arno -- Arno Wagner, Dr. sc. techn., Dipl. Inform., CISSP -- Email: arno(a)wagner.name GnuPG: ID: 1E25338F FP: 0C30 5782 9D93 F785 E79C 0296 797F 6B50 1E25 338F ---- Cuddly UI's are the manifestation of wishful thinking. -- Dylan Evans
From: Yousuf Khan on 21 Jan 2010 11:17 Cronos wrote: > Yousuf Khan wrote: >>> But the SMART raw data fields >>> require human intelligence to interpret. > > Intelligent people don't sit around yapping about HDDs all day. They > spend it reading Kafka, Hesse, Sarte, etc. I think you mean, requires > knowledge and not "intelligence". Anyway, no way am I going to credit > Rod Speed as an intelligent being. ;) Well I doubt Kafka, Hesse, or Sartre could've recognized a failing hard drive. But I will say that certain computer programs like HD Sentinel are much better than average at recognizing a failing hard drive beyond the idiotic SMART "OK" ratings, they're getting closer to human-level quality. But of course, HD Sentinel is the culmination of years of human experience, rolled into rules for a computer program. Yousuf Khan
From: Arno on 21 Jan 2010 13:30 In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Yousuf Khan <bbbl67(a)spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote: > Cronos wrote: >> Yousuf Khan wrote: >>>> But the SMART raw data fields >>>> require human intelligence to interpret. >> >> Intelligent people don't sit around yapping about HDDs all day. They >> spend it reading Kafka, Hesse, Sarte, etc. I think you mean, requires >> knowledge and not "intelligence". Anyway, no way am I going to credit >> Rod Speed as an intelligent being. ;) > Well I doubt Kafka, Hesse, or Sartre could've recognized a failing hard > drive. But I will say that certain computer programs like HD Sentinel > are much better than average at recognizing a failing hard drive beyond > the idiotic SMART "OK" ratings, they're getting closer to human-level > quality. But of course, HD Sentinel is the culmination of years of human > experience, rolled into rules for a computer program. Indeed. And so far the only pice of software I know that is halfway competent in this area. The rest just gives you plain data without interpretation. Truely a sad state for data storage, but it seems a) people do not care and b) people do not have made really bad experiences in large enough numbers. Arno -- Arno Wagner, Dr. sc. techn., Dipl. Inform., CISSP -- Email: arno(a)wagner.name GnuPG: ID: 1E25338F FP: 0C30 5782 9D93 F785 E79C 0296 797F 6B50 1E25 338F ---- Cuddly UI's are the manifestation of wishful thinking. -- Dylan Evans
From: Cronos on 21 Jan 2010 14:04 Gerry wrote: > Cronos > > You were saying -"HDTune is no longer free"? > http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4130.html > > I just checked the author's site and it says "free trial" so is still free but there is a pay for pro version too with advanced features. Calling it a "trial" threw me off because that implies it is just a time limited version but in fact it is not and is free forever. He should change it to read 'Free Version'. http://www.hdtune.com/download.html
From: Cronos on 21 Jan 2010 14:10
Arno wrote: > I found both Kafka and Hesse to be exceedingly boring and often > obvious. Quite a waste of time. Did not try Sartre. Hesse is considered one of the greatest existential writers ever so disagree with your comment greatly. I have read almost all of his books. If you find it boring then it is because you don't have the intellect for it. > What it takes is intelligence to recognize it is actually a > difficult problem (which is rather hard for many people, obviously) > and experience to give intelligence something to work with. > Knowledge does not really come into it besides that. otherwise > you could just read up oh how to do it. And anyone can read up on how to decipher the SMART data. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to do that. |