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From: Double-A on 24 May 2010 17:40 On May 24, 4:27 am, bert <herbertglazie...(a)msn.com> wrote: > On May 23, 1:50 pm, "Hagar" <hagen(a)sahm,name> wrote: > > > > > > > "Double-A" <double...(a)hush.com> wrote in message > > >news:476f326f-5401-48a7-87c3-514247497007(a)40g2000vbr.googlegroups.com... > > On May 22, 6:30 am, bert <herbertglazie...(a)msn.com> wrote: > > > > On May 21, 9:21 pm, "Hagar" <hagen(a)sahm,name> wrote: > > > > > <UseNetO...(a)t-online.de> wrote in message > > > > >news:j61dv59f039nel5odof00dd18l5qst9n3f(a)pasoschweiz.de... > > > > > > On Thu, 20 May 2010 13:44:24 -0400, "HVAC" <mr.h...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >>I have seen trees > > > > >>completely disintegrate > > > > > > Agent Orange? > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_Orange > > > > > Quote: Agent Orange is the code name for an herbicide and > > > > > defoliant-contaminated with TCDD-used by the U.S. military in its > > > > > herbicidal warfare program during the Vietnam War. > > > > > According to Vietnamese Ministry of Foreign Affairs, 4.8 million > > > > > Vietnamese people were exposed to Agent Orange, resulting in 400,000 > > > > > deaths and disabilities, and 500,000 children born with birth > > > > > defects.[1] > > > > > From 1961 to 1971, Agent Orange was by far the most widely used of the > > > > > so-called "Rainbow Herbicides" employed in the herbicidal warfare > > > > > program. During the production of Agent Orange (as well as Agents > > > > > Purple, Pink, and Green) dioxins were produced as a contaminant, which > > > > > have caused numerous health problems for the millions of people who > > > > > have > > > > > been exposed. Agents Blue and White were part of the same program but > > > > > did not contain dioxins. > > > > > We asked the fine folks who gave the world Zyklon-B to develop something > > > > to eradicate the gooks at the same rate Hitler's goon wasted Jews .... > > > > that's > > > > the best they could do, Chuckles. Hope that helps you out, you moronic > > > > goat humper.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > Read ball lighning came down a chimey. Maybe it was Santa and his > > > coat was on fire. Read ball lighning bounces. Well lighning does > > > curve and a ball is a complete curve. > > > This all reminds me of what happens when you throw a piece of metallic > > sodium onto water. It fizzes for a while and moves around in circles, > > and then it forms a fiery ball that dances on the water's surface! > > Then that ball explodes! Sounds like some of the description I hear > > of ball lighting. > > > Double-A > > **************************************** > > Nah ... BeeertBrain was lighting his own farts with a Bic after a good night > > of Bud-Light guzzling ... it just looked like his balls were lit up, because > > of the way he held the mirror.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Hagar For a person with no balls and a short dipstick you should look > in a mirror and see what I say is reality. 4 doctors told me if I stop > drinking beer I would make it to 75 That was 7 years ago they are all > dead and I am still drinking my Bud to wash down MSP chips. Drinking > Florida water is what killed them. get the picture TreBert Maybe those doctors were drinking more Bud than you were! More likely they were pickling their brains with expensive single malt scotches. The surgeons might need a few straight shots before operating to steady their hands! Gynecologists might need a few bracers before facing a really smelly crotch! Doctors don't always do what they say to do. Got to watch them! Double-A
From: hanson on 24 May 2010 19:19 ..... ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... ahahahahaha... > "Mitchell Jones" <mjones(a)21cenlogic.com> wrote: > [snip] O Mighty Hanson! :-) > hanson wrote: .... hahahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... I have been called many things, but "O Mighty Hanson!" gets top billing and I will bestow onto you for that epic and memorable Honorization at least as many "attaboys" as there are the numbers of years that you have been here on earth. ==== You are a truly good man and a wise one at that. ==== See what some elegant apple-polishing gets you....... It beats arguing any and all times.... ahahahaha.. > So, in the interest of science, let me repeat for your benefit: > All the arguing and/or reasoning that occurs when the anthropic element or the Self is involved will lead to spiraling and sooner or later to circular "reasoning"... which is where Kant & all heuristic thinkers end up. > The subject line, Ball Lightning, is ironic but on the mark. It takes Balls to get to the Light. It is not easy to let go of the Id, the Self and the Ego and make the jump to discuss the issue from a purely chemical and physical aspect. > It's like in medicine, for treating maladies, where/when only the obvious and manifest Symptoms are treated... to no avail...but insight and remedy came only when the situation was addressed at the chemical/physical level of the DNA... > The same MO holds for the problem of treating the issue/malady of reality... which is always ending up with ** Mental Mugging** unless you go into the EM/chemistry "therapy" of the DNA or Protein folding to solve the problem of ** What is reality**, cuz [][][] Consider that ALL our experiences and interactions with [][][] our environment are nothing but ELECTRO MAGNETIC [][][] phenomena, (barring gravity that keeps us on the ground) -- ...."mighty Hanson" will leave the building now. .... But truly, Thanks for he laughs, Mitch... ... ahahahaha... ahahahanson
From: Peter Fairbrother on 26 May 2010 14:39 It was about 3 am, on a dark and stormy night, west of Bantry and the Gaeltacht, and I'd managed to get a lift for the first couple of miles home from the shebeen. I can't remember how I got there on that particular occasion, it could have been by horse-and-cart or by helicopter. It wasn't cold though, and with only three and a half miles to go the storm didn't seem to matter as I was eighteen and far drunker than any average mixed herd of Lords and skunks might altogether normally be - this wasn't your average shebeen, it was the one where the boyos who made the poteen went to compare and sell their products to the owners of the other shebeens, and where I occasionally did a small sideline in the finer single-malt Scotch whiskies. Passing yet another field up on the left, sloping down to the road, I noticed that it was alight with fairy fire. I'm told that that is something which is accepted by science, it has a scientific explanation, and therefore it has nothing to do with the little people at all. But what do scientists know? Science, of course ... Anyway, BANG! the loightening struck somewhere near the top end of the field, and the fairy lights went crazy. They were jiggering and zinging about everywhere, and it certainly looked to me as if a ball - though maybe I'd call it a patch rather than a ball - of light moved about, zig-zagging down the hill until it went out. I don't know if it made any noises, I was deafened by the thunder. -- Peter Fairbrother
From: HVAC on 27 May 2010 12:41 "bert" <herbertglazier79(a)msn.com> wrote in message news:824a0864-ada6-4662-9b9d-5ad66c2b9d87(a)s41g2000vba.googlegroups.com... Florida the lighning capital of the world has this to say. Ball lighning is harder to see than a flying saucer. It fits with all sci- fiction, TreBert ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ You saw a flying saucer?
From: Mitchell Jones on 27 May 2010 13:24
In article <htf1k6$gkq$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, "hanson" <hanson(a)quick.net> wrote: > .... ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... ahahahahaha... > > > "Mitchell Jones" <mjones(a)21cenlogic.com> wrote: > > [snip] > O Mighty Hanson! :-) > > > hanson wrote: > ... hahahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... I have been called many > things, but "O Mighty Hanson!" gets top billing and I will bestow > onto you for that epic and memorable Honorization at least as > many "attaboys" as there are the numbers of years that you have > been here on earth. > ==== You are a truly good man and a wise one at that. ==== > See what some elegant apple-polishing gets you....... > It beats arguing any and all times.... ahahahaha.. > > > So, in the interest of science, let me repeat for your benefit: > > > All the arguing and/or reasoning that occurs when the anthropic > element or the Self is involved will lead to spiraling and sooner > or later to circular "reasoning"... which is where Kant & all > heuristic thinkers end up. ***{Understanding the foundations of knowledge is difficult, but it is also important. The foundation, after all, is the base on which everything else rests. Hence if it is unsound, the entire structure is unsound. Since you imply that my reasoning is circular, please identify the circularity in the following: (1) The question to be answered is whether the principle of continuity--that no thing may come into existence out of nothing or vanish into nothing--is true. (2) The possible answers to that question are two: it is either true, or it is false. (3) Doubt is a state of mind. Hence the claim to doubt that one has a mind is a contradiction in terms. Hence the existence of one's mind is a self-evident fact. But the mind is more than consciousness: it is that which, by receiving sensations, IS conscious, and by sourcing sensations, acts. If, however, we assume that the principle of continuity is false, we must doubt that anything exists to receive sensations: they may be simply vanishing into nothing; and we must doubt that anything exists to act as a source of sensations: they may be simply leaping into existence out of nothing. To say, therefore, that the principle of continuity is false, or even that it may be false, is to say that we doubt the existence of anything outside of the field of consciousness, including the existence of the mind. But that is a contradiction: we cannot doubt the existence of the mind, because doubt is a state of mind. Therefore we can eliminate the possibility that the principle of continuity is false from our consideration, and, when we do so, we find that only one possibility remains: that the principle of continuity is true. (4) Since only one possibility remains, we must accept it as the truth, until and unless we find an error in steps (1) through (3) above. If an error exists in the above reasoning, whether involving circularity or not, what is it? --Mitchell Jones}*** > The subject line, Ball Lightning, is ironic but on the mark. It > takes Balls to get to the Light. It is not easy to let go of the Id, > the Self and the Ego and make the jump to discuss the issue > from a purely chemical and physical aspect. ***{I can see why you are concerned by possible circularity, since the above statement demonstrates that you are enmeshed in its coils yourself. Thought may very well be an electrochemical reaction in the physical brain, but attempts to use physics and chemistry to answer fundamental philosophical questions such as whether the mind exists or whether the physical world exists are inescapably circular. All of the knowledge acquired by science is based on the presumption that the external world exists, that scientists exist, that experimental apparatus exists, and so on. Hence if there is a basis for believing in the existence of any of those things, it cannot lie in science, and the notion that it does is as crudely circular as anything can ever be. You can't decide whether the external world exists by doing an experiment or by analyzing experimental results, because if the external world does not exist, then science, experiments, and experimental results do not exist either. --MJ}*** > It's like in medicine, for treating maladies, where/when only the > obvious and manifest Symptoms are treated... to no avail...but > insight and remedy came only when the situation was addressed > at the chemical/physical level of the DNA... ***{If the external world does not exist, DNA does not exist. Hence any attempted proof of the existence of the external world that makes reference to DNA, or to science, or to experimental results, etc., would be circular. You would be assuming that which is to be proven. --MJ}*** > The same MO holds for the problem of treating the issue/malady > of reality... which is always ending up with ** Mental Mugging** > unless you go into the EM/chemistry "therapy" of the DNA or > Protein folding to solve the problem of ** What is reality** ***{The question "Does an external world--a world outside of the mind--exist?" must be answered before we can do science. Only if that question has been answered in the affirmative, can we then proceed to investigate the nature of the world. The gathering of empirical knowledge, hence science, is based on the presumed existence of a world outside the mind. But the existence of a world outside the mind is based on the epistemological validity of the principle of continuity, which can only be demonstrated by philosophical reasoning of the sort that I have sketched out for you above. --MJ}*** >, cuz > [][][] Consider that ALL our experiences and interactions with > [][][] our environment are nothing but ELECTRO MAGNETIC > [][][] phenomena, (barring gravity that keeps us on the ground) ***{All the phenomena of science are presumed manifestations of an external world, a world outside the mind. They all assume the existence of that world, and, as a result, any attempt to use them to prove the existence of that world is inescapably circular. --MJ}*** > -- > ..."mighty Hanson" will leave the building now. .... But truly, > Thanks for he laughs, Mitch... ... ahahahaha... ahahahanson ***************************************************************** If I seem to be ignoring you, consider the possibility that you are in my killfile. --MJ |