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From: Mitchell Jones on 27 May 2010 17:56 In article <86801kFph1U2(a)mid.individual.net>, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 27/05/2010 19:50, Mitchell Jones wrote: > > In article<wAyLn.7480$v%3.4039(a)newsfe15.ams2>, > > "Androcles"<Headmaster(a)Hogwarts.physics_z> wrote: > > > >> > >> "Mitchell Jones"<mjones(a)21cenlogic.com> wrote in message > >> news:mjones-64395F.12240327052010(a)newsfarm.iad.highwinds-media.com... > >> | In article<htf1k6$gkq$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > >> | "hanson"<hanson(a)quick.net> wrote: > >> | > >> |> .... ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... ahahahahaha... > >> |> > > >> |> "Mitchell Jones"<mjones(a)21cenlogic.com> wrote: > >> |> > [snip] > >> |> O Mighty Hanson! :-) > >> |> > > >> |> hanson wrote: > >> |> ... hahahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... I have been called many > >> |> things, but "O Mighty Hanson!" gets top billing and I will bestow > >> |> onto you for that epic and memorable Honorization at least as > >> |> many "attaboys" as there are the numbers of years that you have > >> |> been here on earth. > >> |> ==== You are a truly good man and a wise one at that. ==== > >> |> See what some elegant apple-polishing gets you....... > >> |> It beats arguing any and all times.... ahahahaha.. > >> |> > > >> |> So, in the interest of science, let me repeat for your benefit: > >> |> > > >> |> All the arguing and/or reasoning that occurs when the anthropic > >> |> element or the Self is involved will lead to spiraling and sooner > >> |> or later to circular "reasoning"... which is where Kant& all > >> |> heuristic thinkers end up. > >> | > >> | ***{Understanding the foundations of knowledge is difficult, but it is > >> | also important. The foundation, after all, is the base on which > >> | everything else rests. Hence if it is unsound, the entire structure is > >> | unsound. > >> | > >> | Since you imply that my reasoning is circular, please identify the > >> | circularity in the following: > >> | > >> | (1) The question to be answered is whether the principle of > >> | continuity--that no thing may come into existence out of nothing or > >> | vanish into nothing--is true. > >> | > >> > >> The chicken came from an egg but the chicken's mind did not come > >> from an egg's mind. Your "reasoning" is false. > > > > ***{Since things cannot come into existence out of nothing, it follows > > that they come into existence out of something--which means: the > > Well, apart from universes and virtual particles. ***{Attempting to refute the only reasoning by which the existence of an external world, hence of science, hence of scientific theories, can be established, by citing a couple of allegedly "scientific" theories, seems rather akin to attempting to lift oneself off of the floor by tugging at one's own bootstraps, don't you think? :-) --MJ}*** ***************************************************************** If I seem to be ignoring you, consider the possibility that you are in my killfile. --MJ
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on 27 May 2010 18:22 On 27/05/2010 22:56, Mitchell Jones wrote: > In article<86801kFph1U2(a)mid.individual.net>, > Dirk Bruere at NeoPax<dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 27/05/2010 19:50, Mitchell Jones wrote: >>> In article<wAyLn.7480$v%3.4039(a)newsfe15.ams2>, >>> "Androcles"<Headmaster(a)Hogwarts.physics_z> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> "Mitchell Jones"<mjones(a)21cenlogic.com> wrote in message >>>> news:mjones-64395F.12240327052010(a)newsfarm.iad.highwinds-media.com... >>>> | In article<htf1k6$gkq$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, >>>> | "hanson"<hanson(a)quick.net> wrote: >>>> | >>>> |> .... ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... ahahahahaha... >>>> |> > >>>> |> "Mitchell Jones"<mjones(a)21cenlogic.com> wrote: >>>> |> > [snip] >>>> |> O Mighty Hanson! :-) >>>> |> > >>>> |> hanson wrote: >>>> |> ... hahahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... I have been called many >>>> |> things, but "O Mighty Hanson!" gets top billing and I will bestow >>>> |> onto you for that epic and memorable Honorization at least as >>>> |> many "attaboys" as there are the numbers of years that you have >>>> |> been here on earth. >>>> |> ==== You are a truly good man and a wise one at that. ==== >>>> |> See what some elegant apple-polishing gets you....... >>>> |> It beats arguing any and all times.... ahahahaha.. >>>> |> > >>>> |> So, in the interest of science, let me repeat for your benefit: >>>> |> > >>>> |> All the arguing and/or reasoning that occurs when the anthropic >>>> |> element or the Self is involved will lead to spiraling and sooner >>>> |> or later to circular "reasoning"... which is where Kant& all >>>> |> heuristic thinkers end up. >>>> | >>>> | ***{Understanding the foundations of knowledge is difficult, but it is >>>> | also important. The foundation, after all, is the base on which >>>> | everything else rests. Hence if it is unsound, the entire structure is >>>> | unsound. >>>> | >>>> | Since you imply that my reasoning is circular, please identify the >>>> | circularity in the following: >>>> | >>>> | (1) The question to be answered is whether the principle of >>>> | continuity--that no thing may come into existence out of nothing or >>>> | vanish into nothing--is true. >>>> | >>>> >>>> The chicken came from an egg but the chicken's mind did not come >>>> from an egg's mind. Your "reasoning" is false. >>> >>> ***{Since things cannot come into existence out of nothing, it follows >>> that they come into existence out of something--which means: the >> >> Well, apart from universes and virtual particles. > > ***{Attempting to refute the only reasoning by which the existence of an > external world, hence of science, hence of scientific theories, can be > established, by citing a couple of allegedly "scientific" theories, > seems rather akin to attempting to lift oneself off of the floor by > tugging at one's own bootstraps, don't you think? :-) --MJ}*** > > ***************************************************************** > If I seem to be ignoring you, consider the possibility > that you are in my killfile. --MJ No. Your claims that "something from nothing" is impossible is an act of faith on your part. -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
From: Budikka666 on 27 May 2010 18:27 Who would even *want* to ball lightning?! Budikka
From: bert on 27 May 2010 18:30 On May 27, 12:41 pm, "HVAC" <mr.h...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > "bert" <herbertglazie...(a)msn.com> wrote in message > > news:824a0864-ada6-4662-9b9d-5ad66c2b9d87(a)s41g2000vba.googlegroups.com... > Florida the lighning capital of the world has this to say. Ball > lighning is harder to see than a flying saucer. It fits with all sci- > fiction, TreBert > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > You saw a flying saucer? No but about 7% did and that includes Billy Carter treBert
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on 27 May 2010 18:39
On 27/05/2010 23:30, bert wrote: > On May 27, 12:41 pm, "HVAC"<mr.h...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> "bert"<herbertglazie...(a)msn.com> wrote in message >> >> news:824a0864-ada6-4662-9b9d-5ad66c2b9d87(a)s41g2000vba.googlegroups.com... >> Florida the lighning capital of the world has this to say. Ball >> lighning is harder to see than a flying saucer. It fits with all sci- >> fiction, TreBert >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> You saw a flying saucer? > > No but about 7% did and that includes Billy Carter treBert There were quite a few sightings of black triangular UFOs in the 1980s. -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show |