From: Ecnerwal on 1 Feb 2010 17:31 In article <4b674938.613675375(a)news.planet.nl>, nico(a)puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel) wrote: > I see a lot of people advising thin solder and fine tips. I advise > against that. Use flux and all you can use thick solder and a thick > soldering tip and make better solder joints. A fine soldering tip > cannot transfer enough heat even if the part or pin is very small. So you don't know how to use one properly. That shouldn't guide the use of other people. You don't poke the point in, you lay the side of the cone on. Full heat to single pins, no problem. Turn 90 degrees if you want full heat to multiple pins. If there's no soldermask, your method can get very messy very fast. Even if there is soldermask, it has limitations which the properly applied fine point does not. If you use a fine point improperly, you'll do about as well as people that use a wide tip improperly. By all means, keep doing what you like, but your one true way - isn't. -- Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by
From: Jon Slaughter on 1 Feb 2010 18:30 Ecnerwal wrote: > In article <4b674938.613675375(a)news.planet.nl>, > nico(a)puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel) wrote: > >> I see a lot of people advising thin solder and fine tips. I advise >> against that. Use flux and all you can use thick solder and a thick >> soldering tip and make better solder joints. A fine soldering tip >> cannot transfer enough heat even if the part or pin is very small. > > So you don't know how to use one properly. That shouldn't guide the > use of other people. You don't poke the point in, you lay the side of > the cone on. Full heat to single pins, no problem. Turn 90 degrees if > you want full heat to multiple pins. If there's no soldermask, your > method can get very messy very fast. Even if there is soldermask, it > has limitations which the properly applied fine point does not. If > you use a fine point improperly, you'll do about as well as people > that use a wide tip improperly. By all means, keep doing what you > like, but your one true way - isn't. Most of the time for gullwings you can apply enough solder to bridge the pins then wick up the excess solder quite easily. My method is simply to clean the tip each time and the excess solder wicks up on the tip. If you presolder the pads then it generally isn't an issue either way.
From: Jon Slaughter on 1 Feb 2010 23:59 Jon Slaughter wrote: > Ecnerwal wrote: >> In article <4b674938.613675375(a)news.planet.nl>, >> nico(a)puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel) wrote: >> >>> I see a lot of people advising thin solder and fine tips. I advise >>> against that. Use flux and all you can use thick solder and a thick >>> soldering tip and make better solder joints. A fine soldering tip >>> cannot transfer enough heat even if the part or pin is very small. >> >> So you don't know how to use one properly. That shouldn't guide the >> use of other people. You don't poke the point in, you lay the side of >> the cone on. Full heat to single pins, no problem. Turn 90 degrees if >> you want full heat to multiple pins. If there's no soldermask, your >> method can get very messy very fast. Even if there is soldermask, it >> has limitations which the properly applied fine point does not. If >> you use a fine point improperly, you'll do about as well as people >> that use a wide tip improperly. By all means, keep doing what you >> like, but your one true way - isn't. > > Most of the time for gullwings you can apply enough solder to bridge > the pins then wick up the excess solder quite easily. My method is > simply to clean the tip each time and the excess solder wicks up on > the tip. If you presolder the pads then it generally isn't an issue > either way. BTW, a similar approach works for QFN's but is a bit more difficult.
From: Nial Stewart on 2 Feb 2010 07:49 > be soldered), except when it falls down to the floor. You will not find > it, forget it ;-) When buying parts for prototypes buy a few more of all the small parts so you can just get a new one when one pings off (it doesn't take a lot of force when opening packaging to
From: Nial Stewart on 2 Feb 2010 07:50 > be soldered), except when it falls down to the floor. You will not find > it, forget it ;-) When buying parts for prototypes buy a few more of all the small parts so you can just get a new one when one pings off. (It doesn't take a lot of force when opening packaging to do this). Nial.
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