From: RogerN on
I'm needing to get some basic tools for surface mount stuff. Already have a
heat gun and soldering station plus basic electronic instruments, meters &
scope.

Need magnifier, would the head band type or a clamp on arm lamp/magnifier be
best? Or both?

I guess tweezers? Do you use some sort of paste to hold components or just
hold them down and solder?

Any other items to consider? Panavise with circuit board holder?

Thanks

RogerN


From: Ecnerwal on
In article <ZLOdnbq7_ay6JvjWnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>,
"RogerN" <regor(a)midwest.net> wrote:

> I'm needing to get some basic tools for surface mount stuff. Already have a
> heat gun and soldering station plus basic electronic instruments, meters &
> scope.
>
> Need magnifier, would the head band type or a clamp on arm lamp/magnifier be
> best? Or both?
>
> I guess tweezers? Do you use some sort of paste to hold components or just
> hold them down and solder?
>
> Any other items to consider? Panavise with circuit board holder?

Depends on you, I guess. Some people make a whole production out of it.
I got by fine with magnifying glasses (strong reading glasses), a good
strong light, a fine tip on a temperature controlled soldering iron,
small-diameter multicore solder, and a good pair of tweezers. I did pick
up a hot air iron with the income from the work I did with the first set
of tools, but more for getting things off (rework) than for putting them
on. Hot tweezers might be nice sometimes, but have not been worth the
cost to me yet. I haven't used solder paste yet and have no plans to.

To put components on, tin one pad, solder device to that pad, solder pin
in opposite corner (or other pin from 2-terminal devices), remelt first
pin to relieve stresses, solder remaining pins.

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From: Leon on
On 31 Jan, 17:17, "RogerN" <re...(a)midwest.net> wrote:
> I'm needing to get some basic tools for surface mount stuff.  Already have a
> heat gun and soldering station plus basic electronic instruments, meters &
> scope.
>
> Need magnifier, would the head band type or a clamp on arm lamp/magnifier be
> best?  Or both?
>
> I guess tweezers?  Do you use some sort of paste to hold components or just
> hold them down and solder?
>
> Any other items to consider?  Panavise with circuit board holder?
>
> Thanks
>
> RogerN

I use a Metcal system with an STSS power unit, MX-500 handpiece and
MX-500 cartridges. I use a powerful pair of reading glasses or a
stereo microscope for magnification.

Leon
From: Jon Slaughter on
RogerN wrote:
> I'm needing to get some basic tools for surface mount stuff. Already
> have a heat gun and soldering station plus basic electronic
> instruments, meters & scope.
>
> Need magnifier, would the head band type or a clamp on arm
> lamp/magnifier be best? Or both?
>
> I guess tweezers? Do you use some sort of paste to hold components
> or just hold them down and solder?
>
> Any other items to consider? Panavise with circuit board holder?
>
> Thanks
>
> RogerN

It's not so much the tools but the technique. I ws doing some 402's quite
easy with just a normal iron and tweezers. I did some 0.5mm pitch 32 pin
QFN's with just an iron by presoldering(lightly) the pads on the pcb and
chip then heating the pads. I had problems at first and it's not perfect as
sometimes you do nto get connections but it is not at all difficult with
some practice. I had head band magnifying glasses of course but it is
probably not needed.

The biggest problem you'll run into using this method is not getting a flush
surface which causes the IC's to tilt and positing them(which isn't hard it
seems as many times I was able to get them spot on the first attempt in a
few seconds). The tilt is not a huge issue if it's not too bad but it allows
more solder to get in between the pads which can cause shorts.

Again, it's not has hard as it might seem at first thought and once you do a
few and figure it out it comes an order of magnitude easier.

For the QFN's,

I would pre-solder the pads ever so slightly(using a lot of flux and the
solder on the tip rather than from wire). Put a lot of flux on the pads and
position the ic using tweezers and line up the pads on all sides. Head up a
few traces connected to the pad to melt the solder and hopefully form a
bond. If done it will anchor the ic so that you won't move it if you bump
into it with the iron. Then it's just a matter of using solder on the pads
and drawing the iron across them. You can easily tell when the pad's "take"
the solder as it will form a "knee". If you have issues with opens or
shorts it's usually just a matter of running the iron with a bit more solder
across them. I did not pre-solder the thermal pad as this almost always
created a large tilt making it difficult to keep the pins from shorting. A
hot air gun helps a lot to remove ic's that you screwed up. out of about 30
QFN's I had major problems only about 3 times. All the other problems were
simple fixes by drawing the iron across the pads with a little more solder
and flux.

From: qrk on
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 11:17:17 -0600, "RogerN" <regor(a)midwest.net>
wrote:

>I'm needing to get some basic tools for surface mount stuff. Already have a
>heat gun and soldering station plus basic electronic instruments, meters &
>scope.
>
>Need magnifier, would the head band type or a clamp on arm lamp/magnifier be
>best? Or both?
>
>I guess tweezers? Do you use some sort of paste to hold components or just
>hold them down and solder?
>
>Any other items to consider? Panavise with circuit board holder?
>
>Thanks
>
>RogerN
>
If your only doing this for hobbby, then magnifier on a head band will
work. Fine tip soldering iron and small solder (10 or 15 mil diameter)
and flux. If you need to solder parts with hidden thermal pads,
toaster oven or waffle iron (with fippable plates for grilling
sandwiches). Waffle iron works better than toaster oven unless you
have really tall parts.

If you are doing SMT work often (not production), I'll recommend:
* Stereo microscope. I end up using 7x to 10x for 0402 parts. 0805
doesn't need any magnifiying help unless your eyesight is bad. Cheap
$500 Chinese scopes work fine, but you may need to adjust the optics
to get the alignment right.
http://www.amscope.com/

* Two soldering irons. Metcal (OKI) is highly recommended with small
tips. Two irons are handy for removing resistors and capacitors.
http://www.hmcelectronics.com/ has a good selection of Metcal irons.

* 10mil solder for 0402 and 0.5mm pitch ICs. Otherwise, 15mil solder
is fine. Flux is very helpful for soldering ICs.

* Preheater. I like the Madell unit.
http://www.ntscope.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=MTC&Product_Code=QK853&Category_Code=RS
I raised the top plate 1/4" and made a new one which is larger.

* Hot air soldering system. For occasional work, the Madell unit works
fine.
http://www.ntscope.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=MTC&Product_Code=QK857D&Category_Code=RS
I'm doing 8-pin 2x2mm packages, and larger, with this unit.

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Mark