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From: John Corliss on 16 Jul 2010 09:33 Bear Bottoms wrote: > John Corliss wrote: >> (Hopefully) Bear Bottoms wrote: >>> Phil wrote: >>>> M.L. wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> Used Revo but frankly getting a touch sick of it, slow to open >>>>>>> and longwinded in uninstalling progs. Like how it gets everything >>>>>>> linked with the prog off though. >>>>>>> Anyone got better freeware ? >>>>> >>>>> (clipped) >>>>> Total Uninstall (last freeware version) >>>>> OS: Win NT/98/ME/2K/XP >>>>> http://www.321download.com/LastFreeware/page11.html >>>>> >>>>> ZSoft Uninstaller >>>>> OS: Win 95/98/ME/2000/XP/Vista >>>>> http://www.zsoft.dk/index/software_details/4 >>>> >>>> Thank you, nice to get a good reply after either anorexic letter >>>> answers or the lecture show ! ;-) >>> >>> Zsoft and the old Total Uninstall are not as useful as Revo. They >>> only monitor the installation, and only catalog the files installed >>> during that event. >> >> Not true IMO, that is unless you're talking about the pro version of >> Revo maybe. And if you were, it would imply that you're recommending >> commercial software. >> >> Regardless, both TU and ZSoft monitor the registry for changes as well >> and *log* those changes. As a result, they do a far more thorough job >> of removing registry entries than the freeware version of Revo does: >> >> http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_uninstaller_free_download.html >> >> Notice in the feature comparison on that page that the freeware >> version of Revo does no "Real-Time monitoring of system changes - >> during install of programs". >> >>> Once a program is run, or used for a while, files that may >>> be created will not necessarily be deleted. >> >> That's why before allowing TU or ZSoft to do the final scan, you >> should run the newly installed program, shut that new program down and >> reboot. This catches any further files and registry entries created in >> those processes. > > I have not seen this feature. In TU, you just... do it. When the reboot is over, you'll see TU's icon in the tray. Open the program window up (after the rebooting process is totally completed) and press the "Next" button to complete the monitoring process. >>> Revo does a better job than either of those in the long run. >> >> Absolutely not true. The freeware version of Revo leaves many registry >> entries in place after you use it to remove a program. It has to by >> its very nature, which is that it monitors nothing and has no way of >> knowing what files and registry entries have been created by a program >> since it has been run. > > Revo has alogorithims that search for registry entries. While the free > version doesn't do as well as the Pro version, it does good enough. Not in my opinion, but it's better than what an "Add or Remove Programs" Control Panel module kind of uninstall does. > CCleaner's registry clean catches most of the left overs. True, but it's a PITA compared to simply using TU to do the job, and TU is very thorough. >>> Now if you uninstall right away, ZSoft does well, and it is good to >>> use to monitor an installation and see whatthat installation does. >> >> See my remarks above about running a program and rebooting before >> finalizing a monitor. > > Unless something has changed since my last test of ZSoft, the reboot is > only part of the original softwares uninstall process and ZSoft will go > with it. I was not referring to an uninstall. I was talking about rebooting after an installation and before starting TU or ZSoft's second scan. > (clipped) Here's the author's answer to my question: > Hi John, > As far as I can tell it works, but I haven't done any extensive test on > these OSes... There is a (somewhat fixable) problem with 64-bit version > of windows though. > - ZSoft Software -- John Corliss BS206. Because of all the Googlespam, I block all posts sent through Google Groups. I also block as many posts from anonymous remailers (for example, usenet4all.se, x-privat.org, dizum.com, tioat.net, frell.theremailer.net) as possible due to forgeries posted through them. No ad, CD, commercial, cripple, demo, nag, share, spy, time-limited, trial or web wares OR warez for me, please.
From: Craig on 16 Jul 2010 11:29 On 07/16/2010 05:05 AM, Caesar Romano wrote: > On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 02:52:09 -0700, John Corliss<q34wsk20(a)yahoo.com> > wrote Re Re: Best UNINSTALLER ?: > > <snip comparison> > >> Now I will say, that I use XP, not Vista or 7. I don't know if TU 2.35 >> works with newer versions of Windows but as for ZSoft, I just sent a >> message to the author and will post info from any replies. He also might >> join this discussion. > > > Nice comparison of uninstallers John, thanks. Yup. thx -- -Craig
From: shrink4g on 16 Jul 2010 13:02 On 7/15/2010 12:10 AM, Celeste Delcourte wrote: > On Jul 14, 11:58 am, Phil<plkmeis...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Used Revo but frankly getting a touch sick of it, slow to open and >> longwinded in uninstalling progs. Like how it gets everything linked >> with the prog off though. >> Anyone got better freeware ? > > First "Unlocker", then "Agent Ransack". > Vis-a-vis Unlocker,only use the older version, 1.8.6, because the > newer ones are FUBAR. Here: > Download Unlocker 1.8.6 - Technical Details - FileHippo.com > Mar 2, 2008 ... Title: Unlocker 1.8.6. Filename: unlocker1.8.6.exe. > File size: 237KB (242313 bytes). Requirements: Windows 2000 / XP / > 2003 / Vista / ... > www.filehippo.com › Cleaning and Tweaking - > > Agent Ransack: > Agent Ransack - Free File Searching Utility > Non-indexed full text search of files in a single folder and optional > subfolders. Advanced and Wizard interfaces. Supports RegEx, filters by > file size and ... > www.mythicsoft.com/agentransack/?fwd=ar > > Delete every file it reveals,and you will be uninstalled. I dont see anyone mention Iobit Advance Uninstaller. From the description on the Iobit site, it does works like the Revo's. Do you have experience with this program compare with Revo? Does it worth to consider? I am using w7 64bits and this is the only one provide support for 64bit. Thanks.
From: JP Loken on 16 Jul 2010 14:23 PÃ¥ Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:02:55 +0200, skrev shrink4g <shrink4g(a)yahoo.com>: > On 7/15/2010 12:10 AM, Celeste Delcourte wrote: >> On Jul 14, 11:58 am, Phil<plkmeis...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Used Revo but frankly getting a touch sick of it, slow to open and <snip> > I dont see anyone mention Iobit Advance Uninstaller. > > From the description on the Iobit site, it does works like the Revo's.. > Do you have experience with this program compare with Revo? Does it > worth to consider? I've tried (not tested) both on XP 32bit. They seemed to be very similar in their ability to uninstall programs. I've chosen Revo simply because I prefer its GUI. However, I am keeping IObit on a computer with W2k because Revo doesn't support that OS. > I am using w7 64bits and this is the only one provide support for 64bit. > Thanks. My newest MS Windows is XP, so I can't help you with that. -- JP Loken Sent with Opera's e-mail program: http://www.opera.com/mail/
From: John Corliss on 16 Jul 2010 21:08
Bear Bottoms wrote: > John Corliss wrote: >> >> I was not referring to an uninstall. I was talking about rebooting >> after an installation and before starting TU or ZSoft's second scan. > > I see. Many programs, after installation and on first run create > additional files and registry entries. So...run ZSoft or TU before the > second scan, not necessarily reboot. I don't understand that. Since I use TU 2.35, here's what I do: 1. Set a system restore point. 2. Create an ERUNT backup. 3. Start TU. 4. Run the first TU scan, leave TU running. 5. Install the program. 6. Run the newly installed program. 7. Shut off the new installed program. 8. Reboot with TU still running. 9. When system is totally rebooted, reopen the TU program window and run the second scan. TU automatically compares the results of the first scan and the second scan, creates a log of the file and registry entry differences. If you decide to remove the program you installed, TU will use that log to do so. > I do not use TotalUninstall anymore since it's no longer updated and > mainly because I prefer programs in active development. If you're using a newer version of Windows than XP, that's probably a good idea. > I was so impressed with Revo, that I did buy the pro version and I don't > think there is anything better than that...though it is still slow. > Without the pro version, I would still be satisfied with the free > version. BTW, the pro version isn't perfect either...kinda hard to make > a perfect one in this arena I suppose. I've tried to keep my registry clean, but despite my best efforts it's now 47 mb in size and I think that's totally ridiculous. -- John Corliss BS206. Because of all the Googlespam, I block all posts sent through Google Groups. I also block as many posts from anonymous remailers (for example, usenet4all.se, x-privat.org, dizum.com, tioat.net, frell.theremailer.net) as possible due to forgeries posted through them. No ad, CD, commercial, cripple, demo, nag, share, spy, time-limited, trial or web wares OR warez for me, please. |