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From: Me.There on 17 Jul 2010 01:35 John Corliss: >That's why before allowing TU or ZSoft to do the final scan, you should >run the newly installed program, shut that new program down and reboot. >This catches any further files and registry entries created in those >processes. How, pray, do you interrupt TU and run the newly installed program to catch any additional reg entries it creates? AFAIK once you install a program thru TU, that's it. Closing TU down or rebooting the system means that TU isn't then running and you cannot restart it where it left off to complete its final scan.
From: John Corliss on 17 Jul 2010 04:21 Bear Bottoms wrote: > John Corliss wrote: > >> 8. Reboot with TU still running. >> 9. When system is totally rebooted, reopen the TU program window and >> run the second scan. TU automatically compares the results of the >> first scan and the second scan, creates a log of the file and registry >> entry differences. If you decide to remove the program you installed, >> TU will use that log to do so. > > What I don't understand is why you reboot after running the program and > before the second scan (unless the installation requires a reboot after > installation?) Okay. That's because sometimes programs add files and registry entries only upon rebooting, sometimes they start new services. It's rare, but it has happened in my experience. In my case, I don't always do the reboot because I have enough experience installing software to know when it's likely that a program might do that kind of thing. Another reason I don't always do the reboot is that on one or maybe two occasions, TU failed to restart after the reboot. IIRC, this was when doing an .msi install and when installing something from Microsoft. -- John Corliss BS206. Because of all the Googlespam, I block all posts sent through Google Groups. I also block as many posts from anonymous remailers (for example, usenet4all.se, x-privat.org, dizum.com, tioat.net, frell.theremailer.net) as possible due to forgeries posted through them. No ad, CD, commercial, cripple, demo, nag, share, spy, time-limited, trial or web wares OR warez for me, please.
From: John Corliss on 17 Jul 2010 04:29 Me.There wrote: > John Corliss: > >> That's why before allowing TU or ZSoft to do the final scan, you should >> run the newly installed program, shut that new program down and reboot. >> This catches any further files and registry entries created in those >> processes. > > How, pray, do you interrupt TU and run the newly installed program to > catch any additional reg entries it creates? AFAIK once you install a > program thru TU, that's it. Closing TU down or rebooting the system means > that TU isn't then running and you cannot restart it where it left off to > complete its final scan. You *don't* shut down TU after installing, running and closing the new program, and you don't (yet) begin the second scan by pressing the "Next" button. You just reboot. TU will automatically restart after the reboot, right where you left it. Then, after the reboot is complete and your system is fully started up again, you press the "Next" button to start the second (post installation) system scan. I posted a list of the steps for BB, here it is again: _________________________________________________________________________ 1. Set a system restore point. 2. Create an ERUNT (registry) backup. 3. Start TU. 4. Run the first TU scan, leave TU running. 5. Install the program. 6. Run the newly installed program. 7. Shut off the new installed program. 8. Reboot with TU still running. 9. When system is totally rebooted, reopen the TU program window and run the second scan. TU automatically compares the results of the first scan and the second scan, creates a log of the file and registry entry differences. If you decide to remove the program you installed, TU will use that log to do so. _________________________________________________________________________ HTH. -- John Corliss BS206. Because of all the Googlespam, I block all posts sent through Google Groups. I also block as many posts from anonymous remailers (for example, usenet4all.se, x-privat.org, dizum.com, tioat.net, frell.theremailer.net) as possible due to forgeries posted through them. No ad, CD, commercial, cripple, demo, nag, share, spy, time-limited, trial or web wares OR warez for me, please.
From: John Corliss on 17 Jul 2010 04:32 Me.There wrote: > John Corliss: > >> That's why before allowing TU or ZSoft to do the final scan, you should >> run the newly installed program, shut that new program down and reboot. >> This catches any further files and registry entries created in those >> processes. > > How, pray, do you interrupt TU and run the newly installed program to > catch any additional reg entries it creates? AFAIK once you install a > program thru TU, that's it. Closing TU down or rebooting the system means > that TU isn't then running and you cannot restart it where it left off to > complete its final scan. Whoops, just noticed your first question. Leaving the TU window open, you use the start menu to open the new program. It's as simple as that. Some installation routines ask you if you want to run the program right at the end. You can do it that way too. The important thing is to not turn off or in fact, do anything further in TU. Just leave it running. Note that if you minimize TU, it goes to a tray icon rather than to the task bar. -- John Corliss BS206. Because of all the Googlespam, I block all posts sent through Google Groups. I also block as many posts from anonymous remailers (for example, usenet4all.se, x-privat.org, dizum.com, tioat.net, frell.theremailer.net) as possible due to forgeries posted through them. No ad, CD, commercial, cripple, demo, nag, share, spy, time-limited, trial or web wares OR warez for me, please.
From: Me.There on 18 Jul 2010 10:03
John Corliss: Me.There wrote: >> How, pray, do you interrupt TU and run the newly installed program to >> catch any additional reg entries it creates? AFAIK once you install a >> program thru TU, that's it. Closing TU down or rebooting the system >> means that TU isn't then running and you cannot restart it where it >> left off to complete its final scan. >Whoops, just noticed your first question. Leaving the TU window open, >you use the start menu to open the new program. It's as simple as >that. Some installation routines ask you if you want to run the >program right at the end. You can do it that way too. The important >thing is to not turn off or in fact, do anything further in TU. Just >leave it running. Note that if you minimize TU, it goes to a tray icon >rather than to the task bar. Ah! I've just tested this and discovered that if the system is rebooted (after the first scan and after installing a new program) but 'before' TU does its 2nd scan, TU remains running where it left off so that when the system reboots it permits the 2nd scan. I didn't know that. duh! Armed with this new information, I see what you meant in your first response to me in which I questioned this process. You are therefore right and this is interesting new information. Thanks. |