Black Holes Are An Optical Effect
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From: Michael on 22 Sep 2009 19:39 On Sep 22, 4:25 pm, xxein <xx...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > On Sep 22, 3:33 am, "M.MichaelMusatov" <marty.musa...(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Black holes are visual effects. They do not physically exist as if you > > were to approach one it would be the same as a heat mirage that looks > > like water. The 'black hole' would give way to par equal visual space > > and stars would be visual past and through it (or where it is seen to > > have been by the human brain). You see much like microwaves there is a > > lot to the world and the universe that is invisible we can explain but > > we stumble over to absurdity trying to explain what we see but cannot > > comprehend. > > M.Michael Musatov > > xxein: Explain that again. This time, use the part of your brain > that is still physically attached. Not the part in your penis either.
From: Michael on 22 Sep 2009 19:39 On Sep 22, 12:26 pm, Dave <dave_and_da...(a)Juno.com> wrote: > On Sep 22, 2:33 am, "M.MichaelMusatov" <marty.musa...(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Black holes are visual effects. They do not physically exist as if you > > were to approach one it would be the same as a heat mirage that looks > > like water. The 'black hole' would give way to par equal visual space > > and stars would be visual past and through it (or where it is seen to > > have been by the human brain). You see much like microwaves there is a > > lot to the world and the universe that is invisible we can explain but > > we stumble over to absurdity trying to explain what we see but cannot > > comprehend. > > M.Michael Musatov > > Actually, they only appear to be visual effects. > > Dave Have you touched one?
From: Tom Roberts on 22 Sep 2009 21:47 M.MichaelMusatov wrote: > Black holes are visual effects. [...] Not true. Black holes are theoretical solutions to the equations of GR. They are highly idealized, and originally nobody expected such solutions to apply to the real world. Since then a large number of compact and extraordinarily massive objects have been observed, for which no other theoretical model explains all the observations, but the black holes of GR do. These objects are now routinely called black holes. In particular, the black holes of GR, and the OBSERVED black holes, have major gravitational effects. They are not "visual effects" at all. Tom Roberts
From: "Juan R." González-Álvarez on 23 Sep 2009 04:45 Tom Roberts wrote on Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:47:26 -0500: > M.MichaelMusatov wrote: >> Black holes are visual effects. [...] > > Not true. You are right. > Black holes are theoretical solutions to the equations of GR. They are > highly idealized, and originally nobody expected such solutions to apply > to the real world. You are right. Maybe you would like to explain why :-D > Since then a large number of compact and > extraordinarily massive objects have been observed, for which no other > theoretical model explains all the observations, This, is of course, plain wrong. > but the black holes of > GR do. Don't true. > These objects are now routinely called black holes. False, they are named "candidates to black holes" by rigorous and knowledeable people. There is also "black hole mimickers" explaining the same observations. Maybe you would take a look to literature before doing so misguided claims. (...) -- http://www.canonicalscience.org/ BLOG: http://www.canonicalscience.org/en/publicationzone/canonicalsciencetoday/canonicalsciencetoday.html
From: Autymn D. C. on 23 Sep 2009 14:41
On Sep 22, 1:44 pm, dlzc <dl...(a)cox.net> wrote: > > They do not physically exist > > ... neglecting the extensive evidence accumulating showing a lack of > surface interactions. > > > as if you were to approach one it would > > be the same as a heat mirage that looks > > like water. > > No surface interactions, even though stuff is falling in. Musatov is for one'es wriht. The optical effect is they are out of band. http://google.com/search?q=site:blogs.discovermagazine.com+Autymn. -Aut |