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From: Don Stockbauer on 31 May 2010 08:09 On May 30, 11:32 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On May 30, 9:21 pm, purple <pur...(a)colorme.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On 5/30/2010 10:09 PM, BURT wrote: > > > > On May 30, 8:05 pm, purple<pur...(a)colorme.com> wrote: > > >> On 5/30/2010 8:57 PM, BURT wrote: > > > >>> First the event horizon accelerates matter at light speed. This is GR > > >>> violating the motion laws set forth by SR. > > > >>> Second. The energy laws for light are also broken at the event > > >>> horizon. The blueshift of incomming light will violate energy laws by > > >>> going infinite. And the redshift for outgoing light makes its energy > > >>> infinitely small. > > > >>> Black holes don't exist. And what we are seeing is a maximum red shift > > >>> by what is short of a black hole. > > > >>> Mitch Raemsch > > > >> Idiot. > > > > Perhaps you can correct me for pointing out the laws violated? > > > Not a single thing you wrote was correct, > > Nothing you know is correct. Absolutely everything in physics is to be > corrected in the future. > > Black holes don't even exist. > > > beginning with the fact > > that the event horizon is a location with no properties to create > > acceleration. > > OH really? Please prove then that there is no gravity at an event > horizon to accelerate energy. > > You can't do it. > > > > > Before you get to blue shift, tell me about the difference > > in the internal and external dimensions of a theoretical > > black hole.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Blueshift comes first. This is another law broken at the event > horizon. You see black hole theory predicts its own downfall just like > Stephen Hawking said. So, you do this, "Mitch", just to argue with people?
From: purple on 31 May 2010 10:00 On 5/30/2010 11:32 PM, BURT wrote: > On May 30, 9:21 pm, purple<pur...(a)colorme.com> wrote: >> On 5/30/2010 10:09 PM, BURT wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> On May 30, 8:05 pm, purple<pur...(a)colorme.com> wrote: >>>> On 5/30/2010 8:57 PM, BURT wrote: >> >>>>> First the event horizon accelerates matter at light speed. This is GR >>>>> violating the motion laws set forth by SR. >> >>>>> Second. The energy laws for light are also broken at the event >>>>> horizon. The blueshift of incomming light will violate energy laws by >>>>> going infinite. And the redshift for outgoing light makes its energy >>>>> infinitely small. >> >>>>> Black holes don't exist. And what we are seeing is a maximum red shift >>>>> by what is short of a black hole. >> >>>>> Mitch Raemsch >> >>>> Idiot. >> >>> Perhaps you can correct me for pointing out the laws violated? >> >> Not a single thing you wrote was correct, > > Nothing you know is correct. Absolutely everything in physics is to be > corrected in the future. > > Black holes don't even exist. > >> beginning with the fact >> that the event horizon is a location with no properties to create >> acceleration. > > OH really? Please prove then that there is no gravity at an event > horizon to accelerate energy. > > You can't do it. It might be helpful if you got the definitions down first, and then actually understood simple things like "cause and effect." "an event horizon is a boundary in spacetime" as defined in wikipedia. "Although the event horizon is part of a black hole, it is not a tangible object." <http://design.lbl.gov/education/blackholes/index.html> Next, learn the proper definition of gravity and acceleration. I can't take the time to provide you with the basic education you need about the words used in science. But it doesn't matter anyway, see below. >> Before you get to blue shift, tell me about the difference >> in the internal and external dimensions of a theoretical >> black hole.- Hide quoted text - > Blueshift comes first. This is another law broken at the event > horizon. You see black hole theory predicts its own downfall just like > Stephen Hawking said. On the one hand you say, "Nothing you know is correct. Absolutely everything in physics is to be corrected in the future." (above) and on the other hand you cite Hawking as a god who is correct in everything. On a good day you're inconsistent, leaving everything you write plain ordinary bullshit.
From: purple on 31 May 2010 10:02 On 5/31/2010 7:09 AM, Don Stockbauer wrote: > On May 30, 11:32 pm, BURT<macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> On May 30, 9:21 pm, purple<pur...(a)colorme.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> On 5/30/2010 10:09 PM, BURT wrote: >> >>>> On May 30, 8:05 pm, purple<pur...(a)colorme.com> wrote: >>>>> On 5/30/2010 8:57 PM, BURT wrote: >> >>>>>> First the event horizon accelerates matter at light speed. This is GR >>>>>> violating the motion laws set forth by SR. >> >>>>>> Second. The energy laws for light are also broken at the event >>>>>> horizon. The blueshift of incomming light will violate energy laws by >>>>>> going infinite. And the redshift for outgoing light makes its energy >>>>>> infinitely small. >> >>>>>> Black holes don't exist. And what we are seeing is a maximum red shift >>>>>> by what is short of a black hole. >> >>>>>> Mitch Raemsch >> >>>>> Idiot. >> >>>> Perhaps you can correct me for pointing out the laws violated? >> >>> Not a single thing you wrote was correct, >> >> Nothing you know is correct. Absolutely everything in physics is to be >> corrected in the future. >> >> Black holes don't even exist. >> >>> beginning with the fact >>> that the event horizon is a location with no properties to create >>> acceleration. >> >> OH really? Please prove then that there is no gravity at an event >> horizon to accelerate energy. >> >> You can't do it. >> >> >> >>> Before you get to blue shift, tell me about the difference >>> in the internal and external dimensions of a theoretical >>> black hole.- Hide quoted text - >> >>> - Show quoted text - >> >> Blueshift comes first. This is another law broken at the event >> horizon. You see black hole theory predicts its own downfall just like >> Stephen Hawking said. > > So, you do this, "Mitch", just to argue with people? > I think he's trying to give meaning to his life. There is none.
From: BURT on 31 May 2010 14:41 On May 31, 7:00 am, purple <pur...(a)colorme.com> wrote: > On 5/30/2010 11:32 PM, BURT wrote: > > > > > > > On May 30, 9:21 pm, purple<pur...(a)colorme.com> wrote: > >> On 5/30/2010 10:09 PM, BURT wrote: > > >>> On May 30, 8:05 pm, purple<pur...(a)colorme.com> wrote: > >>>> On 5/30/2010 8:57 PM, BURT wrote: > > >>>>> First the event horizon accelerates matter at light speed. This is GR > >>>>> violating the motion laws set forth by SR. > > >>>>> Second. The energy laws for light are also broken at the event > >>>>> horizon. The blueshift of incomming light will violate energy laws by > >>>>> going infinite. And the redshift for outgoing light makes its energy > >>>>> infinitely small. > > >>>>> Black holes don't exist. And what we are seeing is a maximum red shift > >>>>> by what is short of a black hole. > > >>>>> Mitch Raemsch > > >>>> Idiot. > > >>> Perhaps you can correct me for pointing out the laws violated? > > >> Not a single thing you wrote was correct, > > > Nothing you know is correct. Absolutely everything in physics is to be > > corrected in the future. > > > Black holes don't even exist. > > >> beginning with the fact > >> that the event horizon is a location with no properties to create > >> acceleration. > > > OH really? Please prove then that there is no gravity at an event > > horizon to accelerate energy. > > > You can't do it. > > It might be helpful if you got the definitions down first, and > then actually understood simple things like "cause and effect." > > "an event horizon is a boundary in spacetime" as defined in > wikipedia. > > "Although the event horizon is part of a black hole, it is not a > tangible object." > > <http://design.lbl.gov/education/blackholes/index.html> > > Next, learn the proper definition of gravity and acceleration. I > can't take the time to provide you with the basic education you > need about the words used in science. But it doesn't matter anyway, > see below. > > >> Before you get to blue shift, tell me about the difference > >> in the internal and external dimensions of a theoretical > >> black hole.- Hide quoted text - > > Blueshift comes first. This is another law broken at the event > > horizon. You see black hole theory predicts its own downfall just like > > Stephen Hawking said. > > On the one hand you say, "Nothing you know is correct. Absolutely > everything in physics is to be corrected in the future." (above) and > on the other hand you cite Hawking as a god who is correct in > everything. > > On a good day you're inconsistent, leaving everything you write > plain ordinary bullshit.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I don't believe Hawking about everything else. But as a looser at the top he was right to point out black hole failure even though he didn't follow up. But that just goes to show who he really is. He is aetheist science whose MO is intimidation and he can't do anything science right all of the way. Mitch Raemsch
From: BURT on 31 May 2010 14:49
On May 31, 7:00 am, purple <pur...(a)colorme.com> wrote: > On 5/30/2010 11:32 PM, BURT wrote: > > > > > > > On May 30, 9:21 pm, purple<pur...(a)colorme.com> wrote: > >> On 5/30/2010 10:09 PM, BURT wrote: > > >>> On May 30, 8:05 pm, purple<pur...(a)colorme.com> wrote: > >>>> On 5/30/2010 8:57 PM, BURT wrote: > > >>>>> First the event horizon accelerates matter at light speed. This is GR > >>>>> violating the motion laws set forth by SR. > > >>>>> Second. The energy laws for light are also broken at the event > >>>>> horizon. The blueshift of incomming light will violate energy laws by > >>>>> going infinite. And the redshift for outgoing light makes its energy > >>>>> infinitely small. > > >>>>> Black holes don't exist. And what we are seeing is a maximum red shift > >>>>> by what is short of a black hole. > > >>>>> Mitch Raemsch > > >>>> Idiot. > > >>> Perhaps you can correct me for pointing out the laws violated? > > >> Not a single thing you wrote was correct, > > > Nothing you know is correct. Absolutely everything in physics is to be > > corrected in the future. > > > Black holes don't even exist. > > >> beginning with the fact > >> that the event horizon is a location with no properties to create > >> acceleration. > > > OH really? Please prove then that there is no gravity at an event > > horizon to accelerate energy. > > > You can't do it. > > It might be helpful if you got the definitions down first, and > then actually understood simple things like "cause and effect." > > "an event horizon is a boundary in spacetime" as defined in > wikipedia. Stephen Hawking recently cited me saying that not only is there no global boundary in the no boundary proposal but there is no local gravity boundary to light either. There are no boundaries both in local space and global space. > "Although the event horizon is part of a black hole, it is not a > tangible object." SO? This is dumb to even point out. It doesn't mean anything. > > <http://design.lbl.gov/education/blackholes/index.html> > > Next, learn the proper definition of gravity and acceleration. I > can't take the time to provide you with the basic education you > need about the words used in science. But it doesn't matter anyway, > see below. > > >> Before you get to blue shift, tell me about the difference > >> in the internal and external dimensions of a theoretical > >> black hole.- Hide quoted text - > > Blueshift comes first. This is another law broken at the event > > horizon. You see black hole theory predicts its own downfall just like > > Stephen Hawking said. > > On the one hand you say, "Nothing you know is correct. Absolutely > everything in physics is to be corrected in the future." (above) and > on the other hand you cite Hawking as a god who is correct in > everything. > > On a good day you're inconsistent, leaving everything you write > plain ordinary bullshit.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - |