From: Spehro Pefhany on
On Tue, 25 May 2010 11:29:20 -0700, Tim Wescott <tim(a)seemywebsite.now>
wrote:

>AFAIK a white LED is just a blue LED chip with some fluorescent material
>in the package that makes enough "whatever else" to make it look white.

Usually a blue chip with yellow phosphor. There maybe some that are
made differently.

>They look exceedingly blue to me -- I don't know if that's because they
>are, or because I'm color deficient in green and don't see them the same
>as other people do.

They make them with different color temperatures these days,
especially those designed for illumination.

From: rich on
On May 25, 11:10 am, John Larkin
<jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 25 May 2010 10:22:59 -0700, Tim Wescott <t...(a)seemywebsite.now>
> wrote:
>
> >On 05/25/2010 10:18 AM, rich wrote:
> >> I need to drive a blue led from 3.3V.  Most of the SMD blue leds I
> >> find have a Vf equal to or greater than 3.3V.
>
> >> I am curious how others are dealing with this.
>
> >That pretty much demands a voltage boost of some sort.  Depending on how
> >many lights you have, how much power you're willing to waste, how much
> >design time you want to spend and how expensive you want the final
> >product to be, your choices sort of boil down to a switcher with
> >inductors and diodes and all that, or a current pump.
>
> >Most of us would solve this problem by looking for a suitable IC.
> >_Some_ of us would do it with two transistors, an inductor, and a cap,
> >then brag about only needing one $.001 resistor instead of three.
>
> One resistor:
>
> ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/LED_boost.JPG
>
> John

FTP link does not work...
From: Jan Panteltje on
On a sunny day (Tue, 25 May 2010 11:58:36 -0700 (PDT)) it happened rich
<rsoennichsen(a)gmail.com> wrote in
<730ce605-fd72-4d2c-8954-6cd81feb5096(a)23g2000pre.googlegroups.com>:

>> One resistor:
>>
>> ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/LED_boost.JPG
>>
>> John
>
>FTP link does not work...

Works OK here.
From: Dave Platt on
On 05/25/2010 10:18 AM, rich wrote:
> I need to drive a blue led from 3.3V. Most of the SMD blue leds I
> find have a Vf equal to or greater than 3.3V.
>
> I am curious how others are dealing with this.

Google "Joule Thief". This is the way it's usually done in small LED
flashlights - the sorts powered by one or two AA or button cells.


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From: Tim Wescott on
On 05/25/2010 11:27 AM, Tim Wescott wrote:
> On 05/25/2010 11:00 AM, John Larkin wrote:
>> On Tue, 25 May 2010 10:18:11 -0700 (PDT), rich
>> <rsoennichsen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I need to drive a blue led from 3.3V. Most of the SMD blue leds I
>>> find have a Vf equal to or greater than 3.3V.
>>>
>>> I am curious how others are dealing with this.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Rich
>>
>> I have some nice Osram blues that are OK at 1 mA and 2.65 volts,
>> bright at 10 mA, 3.1 volts. So you could just get by with a resistor
>> or current limiter from 3.3. You could use one of my famous beta
>> limiter circuits.
>>
>> I sometimes make my "3.3" volt supplies actually 3.5 or 3.6. Most
>> other parts don't mind.
>
> How is it at cold, though?
>
A quick look at a blue LED data sheet shows a 3.3V nominal forward
voltage at 25C, with a 20% increase at -20C and a 40% increase at -40C.

"Fading blue"?

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