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From: dorayme on 21 Jun 2010 02:34 In article <michelle-1D781B.21295020062010(a)62-183-169-81.bb.dnainternet.fi>, Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > In article <dorayme-0DA6ED.13391421062010(a)news.albasani.net>, > dorayme <dorayme(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > > If God can foresee from the beginning of time who will repent and who > > > will not, then what's the point in trying to get anyone to repent? It > > > will happen or not, just as God has foreseen, without your > > > intervention. > > > > He might have foreseen that by John's efforts, some people repent. > > You mean that God is not omniscient? No, I did not mean this at all. -- dorayme
From: Mike Rosenberg on 21 Jun 2010 07:02 John Wolf <jwolf6589(a)THUNDERBIRDgmail.com> wrote: > > He and I are fine with each other. That you don't understand that is > > your problem, not mine. > > I cant force the gospel on you Mike. That's the first sensible thing you've ever written! > Perhaps God did not foresee you repenting from the beginning of time. Perhaps he DID: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_kippur -- Favorite yoga position: Rosh hashavasana, the high holy pose Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi>
From: Tom Stiller on 21 Jun 2010 07:18 In article <michelle-1D781B.21295020062010(a)62-183-169-81.bb.dnainternet.fi>, Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > In article <dorayme-0DA6ED.13391421062010(a)news.albasani.net>, > dorayme <dorayme(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > > If God can foresee from the beginning of time who will repent and who > > > will not, then what's the point in trying to get anyone to repent? It > > > will happen or not, just as God has foreseen, without your > > > intervention. > > > > He might have foreseen that by John's efforts, some people repent. > > You mean that God is not omniscient? And that we don't have free wills? -- Tom Stiller PGP fingerprint = 5108 DDB2 9761 EDE5 E7E3 7BDA 71ED 6496 99C0 C7CF
From: dorayme on 21 Jun 2010 07:27 In article <tom_stiller-8FA65E.07181821062010(a)news.individual.net>, Tom Stiller <tom_stiller(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > In article > <michelle-1D781B.21295020062010(a)62-183-169-81.bb.dnainternet.fi>, > Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > > > In article <dorayme-0DA6ED.13391421062010(a)news.albasani.net>, > > dorayme <dorayme(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > > > > If God can foresee from the beginning of time who will repent and who > > > > will not, then what's the point in trying to get anyone to repent? It > > > > will happen or not, just as God has foreseen, without your > > > > intervention. > > > > > > He might have foreseen that by John's efforts, some people repent. > > > > You mean that God is not omniscient? > > And that we don't have free wills? Nor that. -- dorayme
From: George Kerby on 21 Jun 2010 13:18
On 6/21/10 8:44 AM, in article michelle-BF93B0.06443021062010(a)62-183-169-81.bb.dnainternet.fi, "Michelle Steiner" <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > In article <tom_stiller-8FA65E.07181821062010(a)news.individual.net>, > Tom Stiller <tom_stiller(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> And that we don't have free wills? > > I had to pay for my will. Too bad... <http://www.wise4living.com/lwill/do-it-yourself-will.html> |