CAUTIONARY NOTE ON THE AFTERLIFE
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From: George Hammond on 3 Jan 2010 12:53 On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 08:38:29 -0600, purple <purple(a)colorme.com> wrote: >On 01/03/2010 05:37 AM, Geopelia wrote: >> "George Hammond"<Nowhere1(a)notspam.com> wrote in message >> news:b550k55penugum558206bivkv92l4ihn3e(a)4ax.com... >>> On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 14:57:06 +1300, "Geopelia" >>> <phildoran(a)xtra.co.nz> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>> (Geopelia) >>>> But what's the point knowing it [heaven] exists, if we can't come back? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> [Hammond] >>> First of all, if there is a heaven there is also a hell. >>> And people who are sent to hell will not be ALLOWED to >>> leave. Secondly, heaven is basically this same world we >>> are in, you will just see it through different eyes and feel >>> it through a better body. >>> But don't for a moment underestimate how different this >>> world would look if you're resurrected body (a.k.a. >>> "spiritual body") had a zero growth deficit. Words like; >>> splendor, magnificence, grandeur don't even begin to >>> describe the experience of "eternal life" which as you >>> recall is a "bodily condition" not a "time duration". >>> As far as "coming back to this world" I have no doubt >>> that should you be elected to go to heaven you will probably >>> be making many sorties back to the world you knew. >>> In fact, while we're on the subject, it is interesting to >>> conjecture just exactly what heaven must be like. In the >>> first place my research indicates that it is somewhere >>> between the ordinary "reality" that we are all familiar >>> with, and a "dream" meaning a nocturnal dream (albeit one >>> involving all five senses). It is apt to be a mixture of >>> both and superimposed on it all are transitions in and out >>> of "pure heaven" (i.e. in and out of the perfect body). >>> Basically, our ordinary Hollywood movies are probably a >>> crude caricature of what this experience must be like. >>> I imagine that the afterlife begins with an unbelievable >>> assent directly into the full-blown splendor of seeing this >>> earthly reality through the eyes of "flat subjective >>> space-time" a.k.a. seeing reality through the "eyes of God" >>> through a perfect body. This initial phase probably last >>> for at least 10 or 15 minutes, and in and of itself it >>> constitutes complete and absolute salvation to eternal life. >>> This is part of a failsafe mechanism because the body has no >>> idea how long it is going to last back on Earth once the >>> neuronal system goes "flat line". In the case of an atomic >>> bomb blast the entire brain could disappear in 1 ns, and one >>> nano second dilated by the Frohlich's frequency/neuronal >>> frequency ratio works out to about 15 minutes in Heaven. >>> This means God has to provide complete salvation to eternal >>> life in the first 15 minutes of the afterlife dream. >>> Now assuming that you didn't get hit by an atomic bomb >>> blast and in fact died during sleep in your bed, the >>> afterlife movie will continue with other added attractions. >>> There may be "fades" and "zooms" and "cuts" and "dissolves" >>> (to use cinematic jargon) in which a "life review" is >>> experienced. There may even be a "purgatorial" phase. This >>> is doubtlessly organized according to some hierarchy of >>> priorities always with the view that it could end at any >>> moment because of the earthly condition of the brain >>> cytoskeleton after death. >>> At any rate, assuming that nothing drastic happens to the >>> corpse in the first microsecond after death you would >>> continue on in heaven basically in a condition of >>> splendorous exaltation for as long as maybe months or even >>> years in some cases. If one nano second dilates into 15 >>> minutes, then 1 micro second would dilate into 1.7 years. >>> which is probably in the ballpark for the average >>> run-of-the-mill human death. >>> Every wrong that was ever done you will be righted every >>> injustice rectified every evil undone. At the same time you >>> can plan to pay the price for all of those little vicious >>> insults your indulgent overprivileged habits led you into. >> >> >> (Geopelia) >> That sounds good, but there is no way of proving it. >> >> Wasn't Christianity thought to be a religion for slaves in the early days in >> Rome? > > >As was Judaism in an earlier time. > > [Hammond] Na. Religion (even monotheism) began with the high priests and Pharohs of ancient Egypt, which is where Israel learned it. There is much speculation (Freud and others) that Moses was half Egyptian. Religion is as much an occupation of the rich as it is of the poor. One look at the Vatican will tell you that. ======================================== GEORGE HAMMOND'S PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE Primary site http://webspace.webring.com/people/eg/george_hammond Mirror site http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com HAMMOND FOLK SONG by Casey Bennetto http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 =======================================
From: Geopelia on 3 Jan 2010 16:24 "George Hammond" <Nowhere1(a)notspam.com> wrote in message news:73m1k5dnisic4jlcpk8j9qrejrvchulh6r(a)4ax.com... > On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 08:38:29 -0600, purple > <purple(a)colorme.com> wrote: > >>On 01/03/2010 05:37 AM, Geopelia wrote: >>> "George Hammond"<Nowhere1(a)notspam.com> wrote in message >>> news:b550k55penugum558206bivkv92l4ihn3e(a)4ax.com... >>>> On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 14:57:06 +1300, "Geopelia" >>>> <phildoran(a)xtra.co.nz> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> (Geopelia) >>>>> But what's the point knowing it [heaven] exists, if we can't come >>>>> back? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> [Hammond] >>>> First of all, if there is a heaven there is also a hell. >>>> And people who are sent to hell will not be ALLOWED to >>>> leave. Secondly, heaven is basically this same world we >>>> are in, you will just see it through different eyes and feel >>>> it through a better body. >>>> But don't for a moment underestimate how different this >>>> world would look if you're resurrected body (a.k.a. >>>> "spiritual body") had a zero growth deficit. Words like; >>>> splendor, magnificence, grandeur don't even begin to >>>> describe the experience of "eternal life" which as you >>>> recall is a "bodily condition" not a "time duration". >>>> As far as "coming back to this world" I have no doubt >>>> that should you be elected to go to heaven you will probably >>>> be making many sorties back to the world you knew. >>>> In fact, while we're on the subject, it is interesting to >>>> conjecture just exactly what heaven must be like. In the >>>> first place my research indicates that it is somewhere >>>> between the ordinary "reality" that we are all familiar >>>> with, and a "dream" meaning a nocturnal dream (albeit one >>>> involving all five senses). It is apt to be a mixture of >>>> both and superimposed on it all are transitions in and out >>>> of "pure heaven" (i.e. in and out of the perfect body). >>>> Basically, our ordinary Hollywood movies are probably a >>>> crude caricature of what this experience must be like. >>>> I imagine that the afterlife begins with an unbelievable >>>> assent directly into the full-blown splendor of seeing this >>>> earthly reality through the eyes of "flat subjective >>>> space-time" a.k.a. seeing reality through the "eyes of God" >>>> through a perfect body. This initial phase probably last >>>> for at least 10 or 15 minutes, and in and of itself it >>>> constitutes complete and absolute salvation to eternal life. >>>> This is part of a failsafe mechanism because the body has no >>>> idea how long it is going to last back on Earth once the >>>> neuronal system goes "flat line". In the case of an atomic >>>> bomb blast the entire brain could disappear in 1 ns, and one >>>> nano second dilated by the Frohlich's frequency/neuronal >>>> frequency ratio works out to about 15 minutes in Heaven. >>>> This means God has to provide complete salvation to eternal >>>> life in the first 15 minutes of the afterlife dream. >>>> Now assuming that you didn't get hit by an atomic bomb >>>> blast and in fact died during sleep in your bed, the >>>> afterlife movie will continue with other added attractions. >>>> There may be "fades" and "zooms" and "cuts" and "dissolves" >>>> (to use cinematic jargon) in which a "life review" is >>>> experienced. There may even be a "purgatorial" phase. This >>>> is doubtlessly organized according to some hierarchy of >>>> priorities always with the view that it could end at any >>>> moment because of the earthly condition of the brain >>>> cytoskeleton after death. >>>> At any rate, assuming that nothing drastic happens to the >>>> corpse in the first microsecond after death you would >>>> continue on in heaven basically in a condition of >>>> splendorous exaltation for as long as maybe months or even >>>> years in some cases. If one nano second dilates into 15 >>>> minutes, then 1 micro second would dilate into 1.7 years. >>>> which is probably in the ballpark for the average >>>> run-of-the-mill human death. >>>> Every wrong that was ever done you will be righted every >>>> injustice rectified every evil undone. At the same time you >>>> can plan to pay the price for all of those little vicious >>>> insults your indulgent overprivileged habits led you into. >>> >>> >>> (Geopelia) >>> That sounds good, but there is no way of proving it. >>> >>> Wasn't Christianity thought to be a religion for slaves in the early >>> days in >>> Rome? >> >> >>As was Judaism in an earlier time. >> >> > [Hammond] > Na. Religion (even monotheism) began with the high > priests and Pharohs of ancient Egypt, which is where Israel > learned it. There is much speculation (Freud and others) > that Moses was half Egyptian. > Religion is as much an occupation of the rich as it is of > the poor. One look at the Vatican will tell you that. (Geopelia) Moses was the son of a Hebrew woman. Who knows who his father was? He was brought up by Pharaoah's daughter like an Egyptian prince. Abraham came from Ur many years before. He seems to have worshipped one God. Well that's the Bible version. It's often said that the treasures of the Vatican should be sold and the money given to the poor. But Mark 14: 3 - 9 (the woman with the jar of spikenard) is referred to for the other view. And keeping those treasures together ensures that they are protected for posterity.
From: Geopelia on 3 Jan 2010 16:29 "George Hammond" <Nowhere1(a)notspam.com> wrote in message news:ndl1k590setpic5s2bor0u5lr5qfgu2tt3(a)4ax.com... > On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 00:37:20 +1300, "Geopelia" > <phildoran(a)xtra.co.nz> wrote: > >> >>"George Hammond" <Nowhere1(a)notspam.com> wrote in message >>news:b550k55penugum558206bivkv92l4ihn3e(a)4ax.com... >>> On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 14:57:06 +1300, "Geopelia" >>> <phildoran(a)xtra.co.nz> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>>(Geopelia) >>>>But what's the point knowing it [heaven] exists, if we can't come back? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> [Hammond] >>> First of all, if there is a heaven there is also a hell. >>> And people who are sent to hell will not be ALLOWED to >>> leave. Secondly, heaven is basically this same world we >>> are in, you will just see it through different eyes and feel >>> it through a better body. >>> But don't for a moment underestimate how different this >>> world would look if you're resurrected body (a.k.a. >>> "spiritual body") had a zero growth deficit. Words like; >>> splendor, magnificence, grandeur don't even begin to >>> describe the experience of "eternal life" which as you >>> recall is a "bodily condition" not a "time duration". >>> As far as "coming back to this world" I have no doubt >>> that should you be elected to go to heaven you will probably >>> be making many sorties back to the world you knew. >>> In fact, while we're on the subject, it is interesting to >>> conjecture just exactly what heaven must be like. In the >>> first place my research indicates that it is somewhere >>> between the ordinary "reality" that we are all familiar >>> with, and a "dream" meaning a nocturnal dream (albeit one >>> involving all five senses). It is apt to be a mixture of >>> both and superimposed on it all are transitions in and out >>> of "pure heaven" (i.e. in and out of the perfect body). >>> Basically, our ordinary Hollywood movies are probably a >>> crude caricature of what this experience must be like. >>> I imagine that the afterlife begins with an unbelievable >>> assent directly into the full-blown splendor of seeing this >>> earthly reality through the eyes of "flat subjective >>> space-time" a.k.a. seeing reality through the "eyes of God" >>> through a perfect body. This initial phase probably last >>> for at least 10 or 15 minutes, and in and of itself it >>> constitutes complete and absolute salvation to eternal life. >>> This is part of a failsafe mechanism because the body has no >>> idea how long it is going to last back on Earth once the >>> neuronal system goes "flat line". In the case of an atomic >>> bomb blast the entire brain could disappear in 1 ns, and one >>> nano second dilated by the Frohlich's frequency/neuronal >>> frequency ratio works out to about 15 minutes in Heaven. >>> This means God has to provide complete salvation to eternal >>> life in the first 15 minutes of the afterlife dream. >>> Now assuming that you didn't get hit by an atomic bomb >>> blast and in fact died during sleep in your bed, the >>> afterlife movie will continue with other added attractions. >>> There may be "fades" and "zooms" and "cuts" and "dissolves" >>> (to use cinematic jargon) in which a "life review" is >>> experienced. There may even be a "purgatorial" phase. This >>> is doubtlessly organized according to some hierarchy of >>> priorities always with the view that it could end at any >>> moment because of the earthly condition of the brain >>> cytoskeleton after death. >>> At any rate, assuming that nothing drastic happens to the >>> corpse in the first microsecond after death you would >>> continue on in heaven basically in a condition of >>> splendorous exaltation for as long as maybe months or even >>> years in some cases. If one nano second dilates into 15 >>> minutes, then 1 micro second would dilate into 1.7 years. >>> which is probably in the ballpark for the average >>> run-of-the-mill human death. >>> Every wrong that was ever done you will be righted every >>> injustice rectified every evil undone. At the same time you >>> can plan to pay the price for all of those little vicious >>> insults your indulgent overprivileged habits led you into. >> >> >>(Geopelia) >>That sounds good, but there is no way of proving it. >> >> > [Hammond] > Says who; you? > The first step is to prove it's "possible". Science has > just done that. >> >> >>Wasn't Christianity thought to be a religion for slaves in the early days >>in >>Rome? >> >> > [Hammond] > So was Democracy. Now it's the law of the land. What's > your point? >> >> >>This could be considered the same sort of thing, couldn't it? >>Something for the poor and downtrodden to hope for after death? >> >> > [Hammond] > Obviously. What's your point? (Geopelia) I suppose, that those who have had a raw deal in this world can hope for something better after death. Teach them that, and they may be more contented with their lot and not cause trouble for their superiors.
From: George Hammond on 3 Jan 2010 18:11 On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 10:24:50 +1300, "Geopelia" <phildoran(a)xtra.co.nz> wrote: > >"George Hammond" <Nowhere1(a)notspam.com> wrote in message >news:73m1k5dnisic4jlcpk8j9qrejrvchulh6r(a)4ax.com... >> On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 08:38:29 -0600, purple >> <purple(a)colorme.com> wrote: >> >>>On 01/03/2010 05:37 AM, Geopelia wrote: >>>> "George Hammond"<Nowhere1(a)notspam.com> wrote in message >>>> news:b550k55penugum558206bivkv92l4ihn3e(a)4ax.com... >>>>> On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 14:57:06 +1300, "Geopelia" >>>>> <phildoran(a)xtra.co.nz> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> (Geopelia) >>>>>> But what's the point knowing it [heaven] exists, if we can't come >>>>>> back? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> [Hammond] >>>>> First of all, if there is a heaven there is also a hell. >>>>> And people who are sent to hell will not be ALLOWED to >>>>> leave. Secondly, heaven is basically this same world we >>>>> are in, you will just see it through different eyes and feel >>>>> it through a better body. >>>>> But don't for a moment underestimate how different this >>>>> world would look if you're resurrected body (a.k.a. >>>>> "spiritual body") had a zero growth deficit. Words like; >>>>> splendor, magnificence, grandeur don't even begin to >>>>> describe the experience of "eternal life" which as you >>>>> recall is a "bodily condition" not a "time duration". >>>>> As far as "coming back to this world" I have no doubt >>>>> that should you be elected to go to heaven you will probably >>>>> be making many sorties back to the world you knew. >>>>> In fact, while we're on the subject, it is interesting to >>>>> conjecture just exactly what heaven must be like. In the >>>>> first place my research indicates that it is somewhere >>>>> between the ordinary "reality" that we are all familiar >>>>> with, and a "dream" meaning a nocturnal dream (albeit one >>>>> involving all five senses). It is apt to be a mixture of >>>>> both and superimposed on it all are transitions in and out >>>>> of "pure heaven" (i.e. in and out of the perfect body). >>>>> Basically, our ordinary Hollywood movies are probably a >>>>> crude caricature of what this experience must be like. >>>>> I imagine that the afterlife begins with an unbelievable >>>>> assent directly into the full-blown splendor of seeing this >>>>> earthly reality through the eyes of "flat subjective >>>>> space-time" a.k.a. seeing reality through the "eyes of God" >>>>> through a perfect body. This initial phase probably last >>>>> for at least 10 or 15 minutes, and in and of itself it >>>>> constitutes complete and absolute salvation to eternal life. >>>>> This is part of a failsafe mechanism because the body has no >>>>> idea how long it is going to last back on Earth once the >>>>> neuronal system goes "flat line". In the case of an atomic >>>>> bomb blast the entire brain could disappear in 1 ns, and one >>>>> nano second dilated by the Frohlich's frequency/neuronal >>>>> frequency ratio works out to about 15 minutes in Heaven. >>>>> This means God has to provide complete salvation to eternal >>>>> life in the first 15 minutes of the afterlife dream. >>>>> Now assuming that you didn't get hit by an atomic bomb >>>>> blast and in fact died during sleep in your bed, the >>>>> afterlife movie will continue with other added attractions. >>>>> There may be "fades" and "zooms" and "cuts" and "dissolves" >>>>> (to use cinematic jargon) in which a "life review" is >>>>> experienced. There may even be a "purgatorial" phase. This >>>>> is doubtlessly organized according to some hierarchy of >>>>> priorities always with the view that it could end at any >>>>> moment because of the earthly condition of the brain >>>>> cytoskeleton after death. >>>>> At any rate, assuming that nothing drastic happens to the >>>>> corpse in the first microsecond after death you would >>>>> continue on in heaven basically in a condition of >>>>> splendorous exaltation for as long as maybe months or even >>>>> years in some cases. If one nano second dilates into 15 >>>>> minutes, then 1 micro second would dilate into 1.7 years. >>>>> which is probably in the ballpark for the average >>>>> run-of-the-mill human death. >>>>> Every wrong that was ever done you will be righted every >>>>> injustice rectified every evil undone. At the same time you >>>>> can plan to pay the price for all of those little vicious >>>>> insults your indulgent overprivileged habits led you into. >>>> >>>> >>>> (Geopelia) >>>> That sounds good, but there is no way of proving it. >>>> >>>> Wasn't Christianity thought to be a religion for slaves in the early >>>> days in >>>> Rome? >>> >>> >>>As was Judaism in an earlier time. >>> >>> >> [Hammond] >> Na. Religion (even monotheism) began with the high >> priests and Pharohs of ancient Egypt, which is where Israel >> learned it. There is much speculation (Freud and others) >> that Moses was half Egyptian. >> Religion is as much an occupation of the rich as it is of >> the poor. One look at the Vatican will tell you that. > > >(Geopelia) >Moses was the son of a Hebrew woman. Who knows who his father was? >He was brought up by Pharaoah's daughter like an Egyptian prince. > > [Hammond] Even you should be old enough to see thru that typically female cover story. More likely the Egyptian princess herself had an illegitimate son by an Israeli retainer working for the Pharoh and she concocted the cover story so she could bring him up in the Pharohs court. Freud was of the same opinion by the way... see his _Moses and Monotheism_ 1939. Tradition has it that Moses was a Levite, meaning that probably his father was a Levite and his mother was an Egyptian. > > > >Abraham came from Ur many years before. He seems to have worshipped one God. >Well that's the Bible version. > > [Hammond] The "Bible version" wasn't written until 800 BC during the Babylonian captivity 500 years after the fact and doublessly is only a fable. There were bazillions of local gods of small towns and tribes in the early days. Fact is the Hebrews didn't discover monotheism until they moved to Egypt and learned about Akhenaten's monotheistic "Aten" religion. Moses gave this "Aten" religion to his followers since he was half Egyptian and raised in Akhenaten 's court. However, on their way back to the promised land they passed through Midian and met up with another large group of Hebrews who were worshiping a Midianite volcano god named "Yahweh". According to Freud (and others) a tough political negotiation between Moses and the Midianite priests resulted in a compromise wherby (Egyptian) monotheism was retained but they agreed to rename the supreme God "Yahweh" which was the name of the Midianite volcano god. This event transpired in a place called Qades in Midian. Incidentally, the Jews also picked up circumcision in Egypt, since all Egyptians were circumcised, in fact the Egyptians invented the procedure early on to try and beat back VD epidemics. > > >It's often said that the treasures of the Vatican should be sold and the >money given to the poor. > > [Hammond] The poor are already own them. The Vatican is the defender of the faith and therefore the defender of the poor. The Vatican's vast wealth is a weapon wielded against tyranny and oppression by millions, indeed billions. of impoverished followers of the Catholic faith. Your view of religious history appears to be rather banal. ======================================== GEORGE HAMMOND'S PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE Primary site http://webspace.webring.com/people/eg/george_hammond Mirror site http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com HAMMOND FOLK SONG by Casey Bennetto http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 =======================================
From: George Hammond on 3 Jan 2010 18:17
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 10:24:50 +1300, "Geopelia" <phildoran(a)xtra.co.nz> wrote: > >"George Hammond" <Nowhere1(a)notspam.com> wrote in message >news:73m1k5dnisic4jlcpk8j9qrejrvchulh6r(a)4ax.com... >> On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 08:38:29 -0600, purple >> <purple(a)colorme.com> wrote: >> >>>On 01/03/2010 05:37 AM, Geopelia wrote: >>>> "George Hammond"<Nowhere1(a)notspam.com> wrote in message >>>> news:b550k55penugum558206bivkv92l4ihn3e(a)4ax.com... >>>>> On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 14:57:06 +1300, "Geopelia" >>>>> <phildoran(a)xtra.co.nz> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> (Geopelia) >>>>>> But what's the point knowing it [heaven] exists, if we can't come >>>>>> back? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> [Hammond] >>>>> First of all, if there is a heaven there is also a hell. >>>>> And people who are sent to hell will not be ALLOWED to >>>>> leave. Secondly, heaven is basically this same world we >>>>> are in, you will just see it through different eyes and feel >>>>> it through a better body. >>>>> But don't for a moment underestimate how different this >>>>> world would look if you're resurrected body (a.k.a. >>>>> "spiritual body") had a zero growth deficit. Words like; >>>>> splendor, magnificence, grandeur don't even begin to >>>>> describe the experience of "eternal life" which as you >>>>> recall is a "bodily condition" not a "time duration". >>>>> As far as "coming back to this world" I have no doubt >>>>> that should you be elected to go to heaven you will probably >>>>> be making many sorties back to the world you knew. >>>>> In fact, while we're on the subject, it is interesting to >>>>> conjecture just exactly what heaven must be like. In the >>>>> first place my research indicates that it is somewhere >>>>> between the ordinary "reality" that we are all familiar >>>>> with, and a "dream" meaning a nocturnal dream (albeit one >>>>> involving all five senses). It is apt to be a mixture of >>>>> both and superimposed on it all are transitions in and out >>>>> of "pure heaven" (i.e. in and out of the perfect body). >>>>> Basically, our ordinary Hollywood movies are probably a >>>>> crude caricature of what this experience must be like. >>>>> I imagine that the afterlife begins with an unbelievable >>>>> assent directly into the full-blown splendor of seeing this >>>>> earthly reality through the eyes of "flat subjective >>>>> space-time" a.k.a. seeing reality through the "eyes of God" >>>>> through a perfect body. This initial phase probably last >>>>> for at least 10 or 15 minutes, and in and of itself it >>>>> constitutes complete and absolute salvation to eternal life. >>>>> This is part of a failsafe mechanism because the body has no >>>>> idea how long it is going to last back on Earth once the >>>>> neuronal system goes "flat line". In the case of an atomic >>>>> bomb blast the entire brain could disappear in 1 ns, and one >>>>> nano second dilated by the Frohlich's frequency/neuronal >>>>> frequency ratio works out to about 15 minutes in Heaven. >>>>> This means God has to provide complete salvation to eternal >>>>> life in the first 15 minutes of the afterlife dream. >>>>> Now assuming that you didn't get hit by an atomic bomb >>>>> blast and in fact died during sleep in your bed, the >>>>> afterlife movie will continue with other added attractions. >>>>> There may be "fades" and "zooms" and "cuts" and "dissolves" >>>>> (to use cinematic jargon) in which a "life review" is >>>>> experienced. There may even be a "purgatorial" phase. This >>>>> is doubtlessly organized according to some hierarchy of >>>>> priorities always with the view that it could end at any >>>>> moment because of the earthly condition of the brain >>>>> cytoskeleton after death. >>>>> At any rate, assuming that nothing drastic happens to the >>>>> corpse in the first microsecond after death you would >>>>> continue on in heaven basically in a condition of >>>>> splendorous exaltation for as long as maybe months or even >>>>> years in some cases. If one nano second dilates into 15 >>>>> minutes, then 1 micro second would dilate into 1.7 years. >>>>> which is probably in the ballpark for the average >>>>> run-of-the-mill human death. >>>>> Every wrong that was ever done you will be righted every >>>>> injustice rectified every evil undone. At the same time you >>>>> can plan to pay the price for all of those little vicious >>>>> insults your indulgent overprivileged habits led you into. >>>> >>>> >>>> (Geopelia) >>>> That sounds good, but there is no way of proving it. >>>> >>>> Wasn't Christianity thought to be a religion for slaves in the early >>>> days in >>>> Rome? >>> >>> >>>As was Judaism in an earlier time. >>> >>> >> [Hammond] >> Na. Religion (even monotheism) began with the high >> priests and Pharohs of ancient Egypt, which is where Israel >> learned it. There is much speculation (Freud and others) >> that Moses was half Egyptian. >> Religion is as much an occupation of the rich as it is of >> the poor. One look at the Vatican will tell you that. > > >(Geopelia) >Moses was the son of a Hebrew woman. Who knows who his father was? >He was brought up by Pharaoah's daughter like an Egyptian prince. > > [Hammond] Even you should be old enough to see thru that typically female cover story. More likely the Egyptian princess herself had an illegitimate son by an Israeli retainer working for the Pharoh and she concocted the cover story so she could bring him up in the Pharohs court. Freud was of the same opinion by the way... see his _Moses and Monotheism_ 1939. Tradition has it that Moses was a Levite, meaning that probably his father was a Levite and his mother was an Egyptian. > > > >Abraham came from Ur many years before. He seems to have worshipped one God. >Well that's the Bible version. > > [Hammond] The "Bible version" wasn't written until 800 BC during the Babylonian captivity 500 years after the fact and doublessly is only a fable. There were bazillions of local gods of small towns and tribes in the early days. Fact is the Hebrews didn't discover monotheism until they moved to Egypt and learned about Akhenaten's monotheistic "Aten" religion. Moses gave this "Aten" religion to his followers since he was half Egyptian and raised in Akhenaten 's court. However, on their way back to the promised land they passed through Midian and met up with another large group of Hebrews who were worshiping a Midianite volcano god named "Yahweh". According to Freud (and others) a tough political negotiation between Moses and the Midianite priests resulted in a compromise wherby (Egyptian) monotheism was retained but they agreed to rename the supreme God "Yahweh" which was the name of the Midianite volcano god. This event transpired in a place called Qades in Midian during the Exodus. Incidentally, the Jews also picked up circumcision in Egypt, since all Egyptians were circumcised, in fact the Egyptians invented the procedure early on to try and beat back VD epidemics. > > >It's often said that the treasures of the Vatican should be sold and the >money given to the poor. > > [Hammond] The poor are already own them. The Vatican is the defender of the faith and therefore the defender of the poor. The Vatican's vast wealth is a weapon wielded against tyranny and oppression by millions, indeed billions of impoverished followers of the Catholic faith. Your view of religion and history appears to be rather banal. ======================================== GEORGE HAMMOND'S PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE Primary site http://webspace.webring.com/people/eg/george_hammond Mirror site http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com HAMMOND FOLK SONG by Casey Bennetto http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 ======================================= |