California schools $120M solar project
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From: MooseFET on 1 Jun 2010 09:23 On Jun 1, 7:45 pm, "amdx" <a...(a)knology.net> wrote: > "Robert Baer" <robertb...(a)localnet.com> wrote in message > > news:bb2dnV2Vrq5ppJnRnZ2dnUVZ_qWdnZ2d(a)posted.localnet... > > > amdx wrote: > >> Yesterday I heard a radio story about the California School district > >> spending $120 million to put solar energy in/on schools. > >> I did a Google search and can't find any info. > >> The numbers I heard didn't seem cost effective, > >> so I'm curious. > >> Anybody know more about it? > >> Mike > > Since when does a government institution have to be sane or spend > > taxpayer money effectively? > > That thought did come to mind. I'm hopeful that we (the people) are taking > the power that the constitution says we have and telling our reps it's time > to cut the spending. It is a NIMBY problem. Everyone wants the government to cut spending but not on the things they care about. They want more spending on things in their area. You never see protesters showing up in great numbers at a ribbon cutting. > When our reps stop having town meetings because > the people are angry, that is a change. A bunch of fake outrage stopped the meetings. Protesters who claimed to be just average folks but turned out to be party officials made the meetings stop. This did nothing to reduce spending. It just cut off communication with the public. It added noise an no signal. The reps know that those folks yelling at the meetings were bussed in for the purpose. > November is coming, please support candidates that believe in the ideas > that provided a great standard of living in 200 years. > Limited government, freedom, liberty and property rights. The right to act and speak is more fundamental than the right to own. This is why there is no right to own another person.
From: nospam on 1 Jun 2010 09:32 "amdx" <amdx(a)knology.net> wrote: >Yesterday I heard a radio story about the California School district >spending $120 million to put solar energy in/on schools. >I did a Google search and can't find any info. >The numbers I heard didn't seem cost effective, Depends on what value you place on brainwashing children. They put windmills on schools which won't generate enough electricity to cover maintenance costs never mind installation but the children get to see a big eco green tree hugging bollocks symbol every day......
From: Michael A. Terrell on 1 Jun 2010 12:14 vaughn wrote: > > "Sylvia Else" <sylvia(a)not.here.invalid> wrote in message > news:86j7pjF9i7U1(a)mid.individual.net... > > > > I don't believe in these alleged economies of scale. Solar panels already > > represent a large industry. The economies of scale, such as they are, have > > already been obtained. > > Not so, especially not so at the consumer level. At the consumer level PV > panels remain a nitch product, so lack of retail competition and huge shipping > costs because of a lack of any local distribution channel presents significant > barriers. > > Vaughn Harbor Freight sells several panels & systems. They do mail order and have a lot of retail stores in the US. <http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?category=&q=solar&limit=32> -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
From: z on 1 Jun 2010 12:49 "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote in news:YcKdnVzaNLRnrJjRnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com: > > vaughn wrote: >> >> "Sylvia Else" <sylvia(a)not.here.invalid> wrote in message >> news:86j7pjF9i7U1(a)mid.individual.net... >> > >> > I don't believe in these alleged economies of scale. Solar panels >> > already represent a large industry. The economies of scale, such as >> > they are, have already been obtained. >> >> Not so, especially not so at the consumer level. At the consumer >> level PV panels remain a nitch product, so lack of retail competition >> and huge shipping costs because of a lack of any local distribution >> channel presents significant barriers. >> >> Vaughn > > > Harbor Freight sells several panels & systems. They do mail order > and > have a lot of retail stores in the US. > > <http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?category=&q=s > olar&limit=32> OUCH! the larger panels there are 6-8 dollars a watt
From: Joerg on 1 Jun 2010 14:00
z wrote: > "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote in > news:YcKdnVzaNLRnrJjRnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com: > >> vaughn wrote: >>> "Sylvia Else" <sylvia(a)not.here.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:86j7pjF9i7U1(a)mid.individual.net... >>>> I don't believe in these alleged economies of scale. Solar panels >>>> already represent a large industry. The economies of scale, such as >>>> they are, have already been obtained. >>> Not so, especially not so at the consumer level. At the consumer >>> level PV panels remain a nitch product, so lack of retail competition >>> and huge shipping costs because of a lack of any local distribution >>> channel presents significant barriers. >>> >>> Vaughn >> >> Harbor Freight sells several panels & systems. They do mail order >> and >> have a lot of retail stores in the US. >> >> <http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?category=&q=s >> olar&limit=32> > > OUCH! the larger panels there are 6-8 dollars a watt Much better deals to be had: http://www.amazon.com/Sunforce-39110-123-Watt-High-Efficiency-Polycrystalline/dp/B000MS8SHM But I guess schools must buy at a union shop and use union labor to install, so ... -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM. |