From: BURT on
On Apr 29, 4:26 pm, Brad Guth <bradg...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 29, 11:11 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 28, 10:45 pm, Brad Guth <bradg...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I'm not the parrot here.
>
> > Then why are you saying it?
>
> > Mitch Raemsch
>
> Why are you quoting everything?
>
> topic at hand: "Can we detect a blueshift of –c?"

You mean infinite blue shift for light going into a black hole. This
is the one place in the universe where there would be infinite energy.

Mitch Raemsch



> No doubt there’s a whole lot better talent and words and math of
> physics wisdom in order to explain everything better than I can
> muster, but the intent or gist of what I’m saying shouldn’t be that
> far off the mark.
>
> Riding a planet or moon that’s moving you along at c or –c makes no
> difference, as long as you’re not running into other stuff that
> technically doesn’t exist to the local observer because of that –c
> blueshift or negative redshift thing, although as for the local
> observer peering up, down and side to side that’s viewing other
> passing stars and galaxies should appear as only somewhat skewed but
> otherwise perfectly normal for observing whatever’s within the 90
> degree halo.  Any reasonable supercomputer as having accommodated this
> 3D simulation of light speed travel proves the truth of this analogy
> beyond peer reviewed objections.
>
> How about also accepting that we don’t directly see or otherwise
> detect the quantum energy realm of actual photons until they interact
> with something, and we only measure their speed or propagation along
> with most of everything else via timing those interactions, and
> therefore it’s never something entirely objective or otherwise
> referenced from any given point in the universe because, everything is
> continually moving and otherwise in orbit around something.  In other
> words, it’s all relative and subsequently subjective because there’s
> not a guide star or even a guide galaxy that we can call our xyz 0,0,0
> home or cosmic hub, unless it’s simply well enough hidden somewhere
> within The Great Attractor along with all of those Muslim WMD and OBL
> that’s invisible/stealth like nothing else.
>
> It seems the same kinds of physics should apply to that of any fast
> incoming item plus whatever’s associated that’s running towards or
> away from us at 99.9999% c, whereas we can’t directly see it any
> better than it can directly see us until we’re near passing along side
> one another.  In other words, perhaps photons are extremely slow, as
> opposed to that weak force of gravity being extremely fast, because
> we’d likely realize the affects of its tidal gravity long before
> detecting the item itself.
>
> Secondly, it seems any number of photons and thus infinite energy
> density can safely coexist with antimatter (such as within the EH of
> positron saturated black holes), where those same photons of ordinary
> electron populated matter simply can not safely coexist.
>
> Perhaps when a positron saturated black hole exceeds critical mass and
> implodes, it converts its terrific density of most all those positrons
> into becoming electrons and photons that instantly morph into ordinary
> reactive matter.  Perhaps everything at or above 99.9999% c has to
> become essentially a black hole of positrons that only accepts
> photons, and w/o electrons simply can not reflect or otherwise emit
> photons to the +/- c observers, even though their up, down and side to
> side worth of local and remote viewing should remain relatively
> normal.
>
> In other common words, at +/-c is where the opposite of having forward/
> backwards tunnel vision seems to apply, whereas instead there’s only
> peripheral vision allowed of noticing whatever’s moving relative at
> less than +/-c.  I’m also thinking the forward shockwave of any star
> and its planets moving at near c might actually to some extent clear a
> path.
>
>  ~ BG