Canon and Panasonic: updated models
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From: John Navas on 29 May 2010 16:00 On Sat, 29 May 2010 13:47:27 -0400, Bowser <Canon(a)Nikon.Panny> wrote in <dnk206hu47rb59hg1vuafape0bn266c6tm(a)4ax.com>: >On Fri, 28 May 2010 10:21:46 -0700, John Navas ><jnspam1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > >>On Fri, 28 May 2010 12:50:35 -0400, Bowser <Canon(a)Nikon.Panny> wrote in >><80tvv55kb4q74ie5gf7v2lrvjpvp7b1jjv(a)4ax.com>: >>>You claim that the Panny FZ35 AF is as fast as a DSLR. ... >> >>I haven't said that. Do you have a reading comprehension problem, or is >>your position so weak you have to put words in my mouth? >> >>>When you've conquered that one, post a few samples shot at ISO 3200 >>>that match the 5D II. >> >>I have no interest in ISO 3200. Is your position so weak you have to >>resort to fringe situations? >> >>The FZ28 and FZ35 do the job for 99% of the things I want to do, >>and I'm not terribly concerned about the other 1%. > >Then that explains why you're so satisfied with the Pannys. You have >very modest demands and can live within the confines of a P&S. I didn't say that either. I'm forced to conclude you know your position to be very weak. In fact I quite often shoot in very demanding conditions where my compact digital super-zoom easily outperforms dSLRs (and have the evidence to prove it). >99% of >the time. For some of us, who need to get shots at ISO 6400, well, we >need more capable tools to do the job. Then you should choose the right tool for that job, and be willing to pay the inevitable price (not just money). Just don't presume your choice is right for anyone else than you. >Happy snap shooting. 'Those who have evidence will present their evidence, whereas those who do not have evidence will attack the man.' -- Best regards, John Buying a dSLR doesn't make you a photographer, it makes you a dSLR owner. "The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it." -Ansel Adams
From: John Navas on 29 May 2010 16:03 On Sat, 29 May 2010 13:31:15 -0500, George Kerby <ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com> wrote in <C826C7A3.4662A%ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com>: >Sad sack of a little man with a bloated ego is our little friend NavAss... *plonk* "Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level and then beat you with experience." -Dr. Alan Zimmerman
From: John Navas on 29 May 2010 16:12 On Sat, 29 May 2010 10:45:03 -0700 (PDT), DanP <dan.petre(a)hotmail.com> wrote in <b13a04f7-c541-486b-ae48-7e8a772cc4ad(a)q33g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>: >On May 29, 5:54�pm, "David J Taylor" <david- >tay...(a)blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> wrote: >> The aperture (as an f/number) may be slightly "smaller" (i.e. higher >> f/number), but more light is collected because the actual physical >> aperture is greater (i.e. more photons get in). > >If this was true then the sunny f 16 rule will not work. >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunny_16_rule >It does and does not depend on type of lenses, only the f number. David is correct. The Sunny 16 rule is not violated. More photons do indeed get in because the entrance pupil is larger. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-number -- Best regards, John Buying a dSLR doesn't make you a photographer, it makes you a dSLR owner. "The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it." -Ansel Adams
From: DanP on 29 May 2010 16:30 On May 29, 9:12 pm, John Navas <jnsp...(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > On Sat, 29 May 2010 10:45:03 -0700 (PDT), DanP <dan.pe...(a)hotmail.com> > wrote in > <b13a04f7-c541-486b-ae48-7e8a772cc...(a)q33g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>: > > >On May 29, 5:54 pm, "David J Taylor" <david- > >tay...(a)blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> wrote: > >> The aperture (as an f/number) may be slightly "smaller" (i.e. higher > >> f/number), but more light is collected because the actual physical > >> aperture is greater (i.e. more photons get in). > > >If this was true then the sunny f 16 rule will not work. > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunny_16_rule > >It does and does not depend on type of lenses, only the f number. > > David is correct. The Sunny 16 rule is not violated. > More photons do indeed get in because the entrance pupil is larger.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-number More light means the exposure time has to be shorter. DanP
From: John Navas on 29 May 2010 18:04
On Sat, 29 May 2010 13:30:21 -0700 (PDT), DanP <dan.petre(a)hotmail.com> wrote in <9283d5d6-31dc-4f58-8bd2-e2e86fee92aa(a)f14g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>: >On May 29, 9:12�pm, John Navas <jnsp...(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: >> On Sat, 29 May 2010 10:45:03 -0700 (PDT), DanP <dan.pe...(a)hotmail.com> >> wrote in >> <b13a04f7-c541-486b-ae48-7e8a772cc...(a)q33g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>: >> >> >On May 29, 5:54�pm, "David J Taylor" <david- >> >tay...(a)blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> wrote: >> >> The aperture (as an f/number) may be slightly "smaller" (i.e. higher >> >> f/number), but more light is collected because the actual physical >> >> aperture is greater (i.e. more photons get in). >> >> >If this was true then the sunny f 16 rule will not work. >> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunny_16_rule >> >It does and does not depend on type of lenses, only the f number. >> >> David is correct. �The Sunny 16 rule is not violated. >> More photons do indeed get in because the entrance pupil is larger.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-number > >More light means the exposure time has to be shorter. Not so. Read the references more carefully. -- Best regards, John Buying a dSLR doesn't make you a photographer, it makes you a dSLR owner. "The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it." -Ansel Adams |