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From: I M on 24 Jan 2010 16:02 On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 00:47:10 -0600, Sam Wormley <swormley1(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On 1/24/10 12:39 AM, oriel36 wrote: >> >> It is a matter of simple arithmetic when you have a world globe in >> front of you - >> >> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/World_globe.jpg >> >> Turn the globe 15 degrees and the equatorial distance will be 1037.5 >> miles of planetary geography,turn it 360 degrees and you get a full >> equatorial circumference of 24,901 miles with each 15 degrees of >> geographical separation equating to 1 hour time difference or 4 >> minutes for each degree of rotation. >> >> In 10 years or so,I have yet to see one person in any forum affirm >> this most basic astronomical fact,they actually resent it in their >> quest to maintain the flat Earth reasoning of 'sidereal time',a >> concept which contains no information that the Earth is round,rotating >> and the dimensions which fit rotation at 15 degrees per hour.As >> planetary dynamics is central to distinguishing global climate from >> weather,it is safe to say that people know little about climate or >> even what causes the seasons. > > Do use that globe... it does turn 360°, but is one SIDEREAL day. Plus or minus how much? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidereal_time http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_time > You are the only human I know of that can't understand that! He can't possibly be serious, and you are apparently not an astronomer.
From: Androcles on 24 Jan 2010 17:50 "I M @ good guy" <I_m(a)good.guy> wrote in message news:uqcpl51lvl23itosb8fk7lg3tsjd7ovobe(a)4ax.com... > On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 00:47:10 -0600, Sam Wormley <swormley1(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >>On 1/24/10 12:39 AM, oriel36 wrote: >>> >>> It is a matter of simple arithmetic when you have a world globe in >>> front of you - >>> >>> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/World_globe.jpg >>> >>> Turn the globe 15 degrees and the equatorial distance will be 1037.5 >>> miles of planetary geography,turn it 360 degrees and you get a full >>> equatorial circumference of 24,901 miles with each 15 degrees of >>> geographical separation equating to 1 hour time difference or 4 >>> minutes for each degree of rotation. >>> >>> In 10 years or so,I have yet to see one person in any forum affirm >>> this most basic astronomical fact,they actually resent it in their >>> quest to maintain the flat Earth reasoning of 'sidereal time',a >>> concept which contains no information that the Earth is round,rotating >>> and the dimensions which fit rotation at 15 degrees per hour.As >>> planetary dynamics is central to distinguishing global climate from >>> weather,it is safe to say that people know little about climate or >>> even what causes the seasons. >> >> Do use that globe... it does turn 360�, but is one SIDEREAL day. > > > Plus or minus how much? > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidereal_time > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_time > > >> You are the only human I know of that can't understand that! > > > He can't possibly be serious, and you are apparently > not an astronomer. > Kellerher is serious. Raving mad, but serious. Wormley is just an idiot.
From: Sam Wormley on 24 Jan 2010 18:23 On 1/24/10 3:02 PM, I M @ good guy wrote: > On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 00:47:10 -0600, Sam Wormley<swormley1(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On 1/24/10 12:39 AM, oriel36 wrote: >>> >>> It is a matter of simple arithmetic when you have a world globe in >>> front of you - >>> >>> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/World_globe.jpg >>> >>> Turn the globe 15 degrees and the equatorial distance will be 1037.5 >>> miles of planetary geography,turn it 360 degrees and you get a full >>> equatorial circumference of 24,901 miles with each 15 degrees of >>> geographical separation equating to 1 hour time difference or 4 >>> minutes for each degree of rotation. >>> >>> In 10 years or so,I have yet to see one person in any forum affirm >>> this most basic astronomical fact,they actually resent it in their >>> quest to maintain the flat Earth reasoning of 'sidereal time',a >>> concept which contains no information that the Earth is round,rotating >>> and the dimensions which fit rotation at 15 degrees per hour.As >>> planetary dynamics is central to distinguishing global climate from >>> weather,it is safe to say that people know little about climate or >>> even what causes the seasons. >> >> Do use that globe... it does turn 360°, but is one SIDEREAL day. > > > Plus or minus how much? Earth's sidereal day also differs from its rotation period relative to the background stars by the amount of precession in right ascension during one day (8.4 ms).[3] Its J2000 mean value is 23h56m4.090530833s.[4] 3. P K Seidelmann (ed.) (1992), Explanatory Supplement to the Astronomical Almanac, p. 48. 4. Aoki, S., B. Guinot, G. H. Kaplan, H. Kinoshita, D. D. McCarthy and P. K. Seidelmann: "The new definition of Universal Time". Astronomy and Astrophysics 105(2), 359-361, 1982. > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidereal_time > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_time > > >> You are the only human I know of that can't understand that! > > > He can't possibly be serious, and you are apparently > not an astronomer. > Gerald Kelleher is dead serious! My first job out of grad school was as a radio astronomer.
From: Sam Wormley on 24 Jan 2010 18:28 On 1/24/10 2:50 PM, I M @ good guy wrote: > On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 22:39:39 -0800 (PST), oriel36 > <kelleher.gerald(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Jan 24, 1:24 am, "I M @ good guy"<I...(a)good.guy> wrote: >> >>> I didn't understand a work you said. >> >> It is a matter of simple arithmetic when you have a world globe in >> front of you - >> >> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/World_globe.jpg >> >> Turn the globe 15 degrees and the equatorial distance will be 1037.5 >> miles of planetary geography,turn it 360 degrees and you get a full >> equatorial circumference of 24,901 miles with each 15 degrees of >> geographical separation equating to 1 hour time difference or 4 >> minutes for each degree of rotation. >> >> In 10 years or so,I have yet to see one person in any forum affirm >> this most basic astronomical fact,they actually resent it in their >> quest to maintain the flat Earth reasoning of 'sidereal time',a >> concept which contains no information that the Earth is round,rotating >> and the dimensions which fit rotation at 15 degrees per hour.As >> planetary dynamics is central to distinguishing global climate from >> weather,it is safe to say that people know little about climate or >> even what causes the seasons. > > Are you serious? The Earth not only > rotates, but it moves, at what 50,000 MPH? > Earth's orbital speed = 29.783 km/s (66,623 mph)
From: Sam Wormley on 24 Jan 2010 19:34
On 1/24/10 1:28 AM, oriel36 wrote: > If you are incensed that the proof for rotation of the Earth at 15 > degrees per hour... No Jerald, it's 15 degrees in 59.836174 minutes, which can be directly measured! |