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From: Schmidt on 5 Feb 2010 09:15 "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:u28MhSgpKHA.1544(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > There *is* an easy answer for that, though! > > http://www.getfirefox.com ;-) Since we are at it... ;-) Just finished a small Demo, which incorporates the recent mozilla-xulrunner-libs into a relative small (for a modern Browser-engine) and regfree deployable package (about 8.8MB) - able to replace the IE-Control within a VB-Classic-App. Acid3-Test 93% - fast JavaScript-Engine - regfree deployment - would think, that's useful... :-) Here's the Download-Link to a small VB-Demo (including the needed olelib.tlb from EdanMo for the IDE). www.datenhaus.de/Downloads/MozillaRegfree.zip The included VB-Binary ("Mozilla.exe") should work directly from the App.Path, which contains all the mozilla-xulrunner-libs and the mozilla "base-environment-folders". As said, VB-sourcecode for the small "Mini-Browser-App" is included - the olelib.tlb - as well as the required second *.tlb-reference (mshtml.tlb, usually found in \System32) do not need to be deployed with your own solutions. Let me know, when something does not work as it should. Olaf
From: Karl E. Peterson on 5 Feb 2010 13:57 Bob Butler wrote: > "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> wrote in message > news:ONg2l9gpKHA.3776(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Bob Butler wrote: > <cut> >>> That works, thanks. From my perspective I don't want an "experience" when >>> using the web. I want to get the information I need as quickly and as >>> directly as possible. Most of the last 8 years of innovation that they're >>> pushing is pointless IMO. Not that I don't think IE sucks, just that the >>> reason they want to kill it doesn't resonate at all. >> >> It certainly seems to be the "recreational" sites that are leading the >> charge. The raw info is going to be out there, regardless, unless it's >> coming from MSFT. > > LOL. I love it when they try to get me to install silverfish just to get some > basic info. I haven't found anything yet that I need that badly from them. Ditto that. Not a single thing. What a waste it is, to lose one's empire. How true that is. -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org
From: Karl E. Peterson on 5 Feb 2010 14:01 Ralph wrote: > Karl E. Peterson wrote: >> >> There *is* an easy answer for that, though! >> >> http://www.getfirefox.com ;-) > > Not too long ago I would have said - "will never happen" ... > but then I said the same about leaving Win2000 for my personal PC. (Hmmm is > that a double adjective or something?) > > I truly believed that they would have to pull this ancient O/S from my cold > dead fingers. BUT I've run completely out of options. Nothing is supported > any more. I only gave up W2K about 2 or 3 years ago, myself. Now I'm on Win7x64. Go figure, huh? I read a piece the other day saying Chrome is going to overtake both Firefox and IE in the next year or two. (Not until the provide a highly capable AdBlock extension, IMO!) Hey, speaking of IE fun and games, here's a fun one I played yesterday... Title: Internet Explorer Turns Your Personal Computer into a Public File Server Overview: In this presentation we will show how an attacker can read every file of your filesystem if you are using Internet Explorer. This attack leverages different design features of Internet Explorer entailing security risks that, while low if considered isolated, lead to interesting attack vectors when combined altogether. We will also disclose and demonstrate proof of concept code developed for the scenarios proposed. http://www.coresecurity.com/content/Black-Hat-DC-2010 Enjoy... Karl -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org
From: Tom Shelton on 5 Feb 2010 14:30 On 2010-02-05, Karl E Peterson <karl(a)exmvps.org> wrote: > Bob Butler wrote: >> "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> wrote in message >> news:ONg2l9gpKHA.3776(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> Bob Butler wrote: >> <cut> >>>> That works, thanks. From my perspective I don't want an "experience" when >>>> using the web. I want to get the information I need as quickly and as >>>> directly as possible. Most of the last 8 years of innovation that they're >>>> pushing is pointless IMO. Not that I don't think IE sucks, just that the >>>> reason they want to kill it doesn't resonate at all. >>> >>> It certainly seems to be the "recreational" sites that are leading the >>> charge. The raw info is going to be out there, regardless, unless it's >>> coming from MSFT. >> >> LOL. I love it when they try to get me to install silverfish just to get some >> basic info. I haven't found anything yet that I need that badly from them. > > Ditto that. Not a single thing. > > What a waste it is, to lose one's empire. How true that is. > I use it all the time - netflix, watch it now :) The player uses silverlight. Of course, now that they have the plugin to windows media player - I actually use that more... -- Tom Shelton
From: Tom Shelton on 5 Feb 2010 14:34
On 2010-02-05, Karl E Peterson <karl(a)exmvps.org> wrote: > Ralph wrote: >> Karl E. Peterson wrote: >>> >>> There *is* an easy answer for that, though! >>> >>> http://www.getfirefox.com ;-) >> >> Not too long ago I would have said - "will never happen" ... >> but then I said the same about leaving Win2000 for my personal PC. (Hmmm is >> that a double adjective or something?) >> >> I truly believed that they would have to pull this ancient O/S from my cold >> dead fingers. BUT I've run completely out of options. Nothing is supported >> any more. > > I only gave up W2K about 2 or 3 years ago, myself. Now I'm on Win7x64. > Go figure, huh? > > I read a piece the other day saying Chrome is going to overtake both > Firefox and IE in the next year or two. (Not until the provide a > highly capable AdBlock extension, IMO!) > I completely don't understand that. Chrome, while it is fast - I personally don't like it. And if there is one company on this planet that I would trust less the MS - it's Google. I agree with Steve Job's on Google's "don't be evil"... "It's Bullshxt". -- Tom Shelton |