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From: kpg on 2 Feb 2010 17:44 OK, That was fun... Yeah, somewhat guilty of 'opening the gates', but this is a serious subject that I am now dealing with. I'm getting tired of installation/compatability/networking/what_OS_do_you_have issues with my clients. This has absolutely nothing to do with vb6 I suppose, except that the software is written in vb6 and assembler (didn't see that coming, did you?). I ran into a big wall with 16-bit ASM code in Vista 64 but found a workaround. Now my clients 'expect' the software to provide access to the stored data from any computer/laptop/remote office on the planet. Plus Norton, McAfee and the like cause havoc on posting to web services (essential to my software). And I'm convinced Windows 7 doen not have support for actually connecting to a printer. Users are (if possible) are getting dumber, and I feel like I am too. So I'm thinking web app. In the past this was always just a pipe dream, but browsers are considerably more sophisticated theses days and a rich UI is very doable. I guess I'm asking myself (out loud) if its time to move on. If business oriented desktop apps are dying a natural death as the web becomes more viable. Fully 70% of my tech calls deal with installation and networking issues. So I like the 'zero' install concept of a web app, if your browser runs, so will my software. Oddly, in an industry whose norm is change I really don't like change all that much - MS drives me nuts with VS2003, 2005, 2008, 2010, each new version breaking things in the old even with supposed with side-by-side compatibility - vb6 has provided a nice, quiet, protected haven from change - but it is getting harder and harder to justify. So my intent was not be a troll, and I'm sure this has been discussed ad nauseam in one form or another, I'm just involved in my own internal conflict where on one hand vb6 has been a good companion and business partner and on the other I see the inevitable day coming when it will no longer be able to make the cut. If I could snap my fingers and have a full featured, robust, web app version of my software with a slick modern interface and all my tech calls were "how do you do X in the software" I would be a happy man. wow...I am off topic.
From: Karl E. Peterson on 2 Feb 2010 18:28 kpg brought next idea : > So I like the 'zero' install concept of a web app, if your browser > runs, so will my software. I think the only response to that can be, "the grass is always greener..." I say this remembering I got an email from Google this morning saying they'd no longer be supporting IE6. How fast do you want to set that treadmill? <bg> -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org
From: Saga on 3 Feb 2010 15:54 Gee :-| I still have IE6 on my work PC and Google is not the only one no longer "supporting" this browser, as the number of websites that look "funny"and behave "wierdly" seems to grow as the days go by. I wonder how long MS Windows Updates will work with this browser. Saga "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> wrote in message news:eJ9hi9FpKHA.5520(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > kpg brought next idea : >> So I like the 'zero' install concept of a web app, if your browser runs, >> so will my software. > > I think the only response to that can be, "the grass is always greener..." > > I say this remembering I got an email from Google this morning saying > they'd no longer be supporting IE6. How fast do you want to set that > treadmill? <bg> > > -- > .NET: It's About Trust! > http://vfred.mvps.org > >
From: C. Kevin Provance on 3 Feb 2010 18:04 "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> wrote in message news:ugMPX7RpKHA.4648(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... | Maybe you should be directing people to the petition, rather than | telling 'em to go f___ themselves? | | http://www.saveie6.com/ ;-) Any deny a MSFT evangelist the opportunity to parrot MSFT's mission statement? Nawwwwww.
From: mayayana on 3 Feb 2010 18:46
> Gee :-| I still have IE6 on my work PC and Google is not the only one > no longer "supporting" this browser, as the number of websites that look > "funny"and behave "wierdly" seems to grow as the days go by. I > wonder how long MS Windows Updates will work with this browser. Google has said that only Google apps are not going to support IE6. I have seen talk on Slashdot, though. There seems to be a movement among web designers and others to specifically try to get people to stop using IE6. I actually target only IE6. I have to write a different page for IE6 because it lacks :hover support. And since I have to do that anyway, I skip the DOCTYPE tag, which according to MS is supposed to render pages like IE6 in IE7 and IE8. That way I don't have to play around trying to get the layout to work in all IE versions. |