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From: Schmidt on 5 Feb 2010 16:35 "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:u2hxdZqpKHA.1552(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > And that's totally independent of any version(s) of Firefox > that may be installed on the same machine, too, right? Yes, have it working here in parallel to a "normal" Firefox-install as well as to the latest nightly of a Firefox-MineField. But also already tested on a completely "FireFox-free" system - as well as on a "completely browserless" Linux/Wine - all seems to work well. An information about the behaviour on Win7-64 would be great (don't have such an install here yet). Olaf
From: C. Kevin Provance on 5 Feb 2010 17:03 I'm going to have a go at this too, if you don't mind. Looks wickedly cool! "Schmidt" <sss(a)online.de> wrote in message news:Oz$Qo9mpKHA.5588(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... | | "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag | news:u28MhSgpKHA.1544(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... | | > There *is* an easy answer for that, though! | > | > http://www.getfirefox.com ;-) | | Since we are at it... ;-) | | Just finished a small Demo, which incorporates the | recent mozilla-xulrunner-libs into a relative small | (for a modern Browser-engine) and regfree deployable | package (about 8.8MB) - able to replace the IE-Control | within a VB-Classic-App. | | Acid3-Test 93% - fast JavaScript-Engine - | regfree deployment - would think, that's useful... :-) | | Here's the Download-Link to a small VB-Demo | (including the needed olelib.tlb from EdanMo for the IDE). | www.datenhaus.de/Downloads/MozillaRegfree.zip | | The included VB-Binary ("Mozilla.exe") should | work directly from the App.Path, which contains | all the mozilla-xulrunner-libs and the mozilla | "base-environment-folders". | As said, VB-sourcecode for the small "Mini-Browser-App" | is included - the olelib.tlb - as well as the required second | *.tlb-reference (mshtml.tlb, usually found in \System32) | do not need to be deployed with your own solutions. | | Let me know, when something does not work as | it should. | | Olaf | |
From: Tom Shelton on 5 Feb 2010 17:24 On 2010-02-05, Karl E Peterson <karl(a)exmvps.org> wrote: > Tom Shelton wrote: >> On 2010-02-05, Karl E Peterson <karl(a)exmvps.org> wrote: >>> Ralph wrote: >>>> Karl E. Peterson wrote: >>>>> >>>>> There *is* an easy answer for that, though! >>>>> >>>>> http://www.getfirefox.com ;-) >>>> >>>> Not too long ago I would have said - "will never happen" ... >>>> but then I said the same about leaving Win2000 for my personal PC. (Hmmm is >>>> that a double adjective or something?) >>>> >>>> I truly believed that they would have to pull this ancient O/S from my cold >>>> dead fingers. BUT I've run completely out of options. Nothing is supported >>>> any more. >>> >>> I only gave up W2K about 2 or 3 years ago, myself. Now I'm on Win7x64. >>> Go figure, huh? >>> >>> I read a piece the other day saying Chrome is going to overtake both >>> Firefox and IE in the next year or two. (Not until the provide a >>> highly capable AdBlock extension, IMO!) >> >> I completely don't understand that. Chrome, while it is fast - I personally >> don't like it. > > I don't really like it, either. But the author had some good points, > particularly about bloat and speed. > > http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2358686,00.asp > >> And if there is one company on this planet that I would trust >> less the MS - it's Google. I agree with Steve Job's on Google's "don't be >> evil"... "It's Bullshxt". > > Not me. I'd far rather Google inherit the Earth, than either Jobs or > Ballmer, myself. They "get" it. <shrug> > -- Tom Shelton
From: Karl E. Peterson on 5 Feb 2010 17:53 Schmidt wrote: > "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag > news:u2hxdZqpKHA.1552(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > >> And that's totally independent of any version(s) of Firefox >> that may be installed on the same machine, too, right? > > Yes, have it working here in parallel to a "normal" > Firefox-install as well as to the latest nightly of a > Firefox-MineField. > But also already tested on a completely "FireFox-free" > system - as well as on a "completely browserless" Linux/Wine - > all seems to work well. > > An information about the behaviour on Win7-64 > would be great (don't have such an install here yet). I just extracted and ran it. All the initial demos appeared to do what they said they would. The acid test scored 93/100. I started hitting a few other websites, and it seemed to function perfectly! Even watching youtubes. :-) -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org
From: Schmidt on 6 Feb 2010 06:08
"Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:eaC06XrpKHA.4532(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > An information about the behaviour on Win7-64 > > would be great (don't have such an install here yet). > > I just extracted and ran it. All the initial demos appeared to do > what they said they would. The acid test scored 93/100. > > I started hitting a few other websites, and it seemed to function > perfectly! Ah - well, thanks for confirmation (regarding Win7-64, right?). > Even watching youtubes. :-) Yep, just a note about that - the needed Flash-Plugin is independent (not included) in any Firefox/XulRunner- "binary-set". Adobe provides an Installer, which puts the FlashPlugin (in non-ActiveX-"mozilla-nsPlugin-format") into "some place in the Win-OS" where any non-MS- Browsers (Firefox + GoogleChrome + WebKit + Opera) are able to find it, when they look for this stuff. So, should there be a requirement, which relies on "Streaming-Video-Support over Flash", then this is not covered/included in the current 8MB-redistributable in my "xulrunner-zip". Flash needs to be "there" on the target-system (or installed on request). But by looking at the sources - what *is* built-in in the 8MB-set, is support for the new HTML5 <Video> tag. That means, e.g. a CD-catalog-App, which wants to embed and run Video-content within a "catalog-page", could circumvent the Flash-necessities/dependencies, by providing Video- Files on the CD which are encoded with the free Theora-codec (with its sound-contents encoded in *.ogg format, but that is IMO implicit when encoding to a Theora-Video-stream). You can verify that yourself (Ogg-Theora-support over the HTML5 <video>tag), by using the MiniBrowser, surfing to this Demo-URL: http://www.cognitiones.de/doku.php/ogg_theora_im_firefox In supporting browser-engines, you should see the video- content-window - in all other browsers you should get an appropriate information for their "lack of support". Olaf |