From: Pascal J. Bourguignon on
wrf3(a)stablecross.com (Bob Felts) writes:

> Pascal J. Bourguignon <pjb(a)informatimago.com> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>
>> - every time you get an update of MacOSX, you have to reinstall X11,
>> because it botches some library or something.
>
> I've never had this problem and I'm running 10.6.3 (having started with
> 10.6).

It's in the README of the X11.dmg I got from apple.com, and happens in fact.

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__Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/
From: Bob Felts on
Pascal J. Bourguignon <pjb(a)informatimago.com> wrote:

> wrf3(a)stablecross.com (Bob Felts) writes:
>
> > Pascal J. Bourguignon <pjb(a)informatimago.com> wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> >>
> >> - every time you get an update of MacOSX, you have to reinstall X11,
> >> because it botches some library or something.
> >
> > I've never had this problem and I'm running 10.6.3 (having started with
> > 10.6).
>
> It's in the README of the X11.dmg I got from apple.com, and happens in fact.

Curious. I just downloaded Apple's X11 package
(http://support.apple.com/kb/DL641) and their update
(http://support.apple.com/kb/DL304) and neither of them come with a
README (unless it's embedded in the installer -- both both installers
don't go past "you don't need this software").

I used to have the problem you're now having, but that was quite some
time ago, possibly Tiger era. Never had a problem with Snow Leopard and
X11.
From: Pascal J. Bourguignon on
wrf3(a)stablecross.com (Bob Felts) writes:

> Pascal J. Bourguignon <pjb(a)informatimago.com> wrote:
>
>> wrf3(a)stablecross.com (Bob Felts) writes:
>>
>> > Pascal J. Bourguignon <pjb(a)informatimago.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > [...]
>> >
>> >>
>> >> - every time you get an update of MacOSX, you have to reinstall X11,
>> >> because it botches some library or something.
>> >
>> > I've never had this problem and I'm running 10.6.3 (having started with
>> > 10.6).
>>
>> It's in the README of the X11.dmg I got from apple.com, and happens in fact.
>
> Curious. I just downloaded Apple's X11 package
> (http://support.apple.com/kb/DL641) and their update
> (http://support.apple.com/kb/DL304) and neither of them come with a
> README (unless it's embedded in the installer -- both both installers
> don't go past "you don't need this software").
>
> I used to have the problem you're now having, but that was quite some
> time ago, possibly Tiger era. Never had a problem with Snow Leopard and
> X11.

I'm on 10.5; perhaps it's only in 10.5.

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__Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/
From: Harald Hanche-Olsen on
Anyone who is serious about using X11 on Mac OS X should probably track
the xquartz project:

http://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/wiki

It's an official Apple project, but releases more frequently than the
regular system updates. Unfortunately, because system updates and
xquartz releases are somewhat unsynchronized, you sometimes need to
reapply the latest xquartz installation after a system update.

Appl's X11 support after the release of Leopard was a disaster. At some
time they must have realized they had a problem, and hired Jeremy
Huddles to get their X11 support up to speed. He has been doing a great
job of it, as far as I can tell. But to some extent, it seems his
success is due to working outside the main Apple software release
cycle. Hence the need to track xquartz.

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* Harald Hanche-Olsen <URL:http://www.math.ntnu.no/~hanche/>
- It is undesirable to believe a proposition
when there is no ground whatsoever for supposing it is true.
-- Bertrand Russell
From: Tim Bradshaw on
On 2010-05-29 02:48:34 +0100, Pascal J. Bourguignon said:

> Honestly, the unix system under the MacOSX facade feels like it's held
> together with tape and spit

Tape and spit is how Unix systems are meant to be held together.

> every time you get an update of MacOSX, you have to reinstall X11,
> because it botches some library or something.

The best thing about macs is that you can finally get away from the
tentacled horror that is X11.