From: mjt on
On 03 Jul 2010 15:06:37 GMT
HamRadio <toglimi.hamradio(a)toglimi.quipo.it> wrote:

> However my question was specific to particular aspects of the
> conversion of an ext3 filesystem to ext4, *not* about which one is
> better...

You'd be surprised how many people (home users/hobbyists)
want to change to something newer (like going from ext3->4)
just because it's cooler or the latest thing, not because
it offers any technical advantages, which is why I asked.

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From: notbob on
On 2010-07-03, Kenny McCormack <gazelle(a)shell.xmission.com> wrote:

> It is attitudes and posts like this that show why MS is beating Linux in
> most markets. NTFS comes with a simple utility that works that converts
> FAT to NTFS (in place). Linux would do well to emulate that.

Yes, M$ is a just a plethora of enviable choices and features. Let's
see, M$ can use/read what? ....two file systems? ....FAT and NTFS?
Wow! While linux can only use/read a FEW DOZEN files systems,
including FAT and NTFS? Yeah, you M$ stooges really have us on the
run.

nb
From: Kenny McCormack on
In article <UgJXn.6743$Lj2.6137(a)newsfe05.iad>,
notbob <notbob(a)nothome.com> wrote:
>On 2010-07-03, Kenny McCormack <gazelle(a)shell.xmission.com> wrote:
>
>> It is attitudes and posts like this that show why MS is beating Linux in
>> most markets. NTFS comes with a simple utility that works that converts
>> FAT to NTFS (in place). Linux would do well to emulate that.
>
>Yes, M$ is a just a plethora of enviable choices and features. Let's
>see, M$ can use/read what? ....two file systems? ....FAT and NTFS?
>Wow! While linux can only use/read a FEW DOZEN files systems,
>including FAT and NTFS? Yeah, you M$ stooges really have us on the
>run.
>
>noob

Now, now. Be nice. All I'm saying is that an in-place convert utility
is a good thing to have. It eases the upward migration path.
Everything else you're wailin about is only in your head.

--
Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is
no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.

- John Kenneth Galbraith -

From: Kenny McCormack on
In article <pan.2010.07.03.15.14.10(a)toglimi.quipo.it>,
HamRadio <toglimi.hamradio(a)toglimi.quipo.it> wrote:
>Il Sat, 03 Jul 2010 06:56:17 -0700, John Reiser ha scritto:
>
>> Asking questions like
>> you did strongly suggests a non-ignorable probability that you *WILL*
>> scribble *ALL* your data.
>
>Thanks a lot for all your suggestions, but my questions regarding that
>specific topic, that is the conversion of an ext3 filesystem to ext4,
>remain unanswered...

I think that if you ignore the hysterics, you do get the underlying
answer, which is: "No, there is no in-place conversion tool." You have
to do like JR suggested - copy it out to somewhere else, then reformat
and copy it back in.

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> No, I haven't, that's why I'm asking questions. If you won't help me,
> why don't you just go find your lost manhood elsewhere.

CLC in a nutshell.

From: Kenny McCormack on
In article <io24g7-g8j.ln1(a)llondel.org>,
Dave {Reply Address In.Sig} <noone$$@llondel.org> wrote:
>Kenny McCormack wrote:
>
>> In article <17qdnZ7dk6QP3LLR4p2dnAA(a)giganews.com>,
>> John Reiser <jreiserfl(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>> ...
>>>If you cannot afford to buy or borrow such an "extra" drive,
>>>then you certainly cannot afford to scribble all your data.
>>>Asking questions like you did strongly suggests a non-ignorable
>>>probability that you *WILL* scribble *ALL* your data.
>>
>> It is attitudes and posts like this that show why MS is beating Linux in
>> most markets. NTFS comes with a simple utility that works that converts
>> FAT to NTFS (in place). Linux would do well to emulate that.
>>
>But the smart people would still take a backup first. An in-place utility is
>nice to use after the backup, but most people who do it will just run the
>conversion without taking precautions. Most will be just fine, but there's
>always that chance...

No argument as to your basic point. Of course, to be snarky, I could
observe that the truly smart people would have no need to "take a backup
first", since their normal in-house procedures would have taken care of
that as usual (I.e., their usual overnight backups would have run that
day as they run every day).

(Yes, I know that you might lose the "changes since the overnight ran",
but that's a normal risk that is always present. Let's not dwell on it.)

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