From: mjt on
On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 17:08:57 +0000 (UTC)
gazelle(a)shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) wrote:

> In article <87k4pcr0vj.fsf(a)thumper.dhh.gt.org>,
> John Hasler <jhasler(a)newsguy.com> wrote:
> >mjt writes:
> >> You'd be surprised how many people (home users/hobbyists) want to
> >> change to something newer (like going from ext3->4) just because
> >> it's cooler or the latest thing, not because it offers any
> >> technical advantages...
> >
> >Actually it's often that they assume that because it is newer it must
> >have advantages that matter to them even though they have no idea
> >what they might be.
>
> Granted, this is mainstream management-think. That you must always
> "upgrade" to the latest, regardless of whether or not there is any
> real advantage. It is a "You just gotta do it - in order to keep up
> with everything else that is going on."

Agreed to both John and Kenny. For me, it's what I do
for a living ... the "consultant" thing. As a knee-jerk
reaction, I always ask "why" ... you see it more in
the "personal" world (i.e. hobbyist), but I also see
it [more than I like to] in the corporate world ...
it's always the techno-weenie who wants the latest
thing and talks management into the newest gizmo.

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would turn up by the last quarter. Well, I'm down to mine and it
hasn't. - Robert Orben
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From: mjt on
On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 12:42:28 -0400
despen(a)verizon.net wrote:

> Well don't let FACTS get in the way of a good rant:
>
> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-convert-ext3-to-ext4-file-system.html
>
> A few seconds in Google turned up the above link which is as simple as
> issuing a couple of commands.
>
> I didn't bother to do more searches, for all I know one of the built
> in GUI tools may do the conversion too.

You didn't address the OP's original request. It's not
that they don't know how to do the conversion, but their
concern is whether existing files are treated as "true"
ext4 (extents) files after the conversion.

They aren't - there is no "conversion in place" that
happens, unless you off-load the files and then copy
them back into the filesystem.

Even if you run a defrag utility, it won't reconstitute
a file into an ext4 entry if it's not considered for
de-fragmentation.

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From: mjt on
On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 18:17:03 +0100
The Natural Philosopher <tnp(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:

> > Now, now. Be nice. All I'm saying is that an in-place convert
> > utility is a good thing to have.
>
> No, its a nice thing to have. In Linux.
>
> It is of course mandatory in Windows, as all that crappy FAT stuff
> cant easily be changed without a tool to do it for you by the
> average brainless windows user.

An "average brainless windows user" (aren't all Windows
users brainless?) won't know what FAT and NTFS are.

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From: Kenny McCormack on
In article <i0nraf$eq8$2(a)news.albasani.net>,
The Natural Philosopher <tnp(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
....
>It is of course mandatory in Windows, as all that crappy FAT stuff cant
>easily be changed without a tool to do it for you by the average
>brainless windows user.

You appear to have some, er, issues, Sir. Do you have good insurance?
Does it cover psychiatric care?

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From: The Natural Philosopher on
Kenny McCormack wrote:
> In article <i0nraf$eq8$2(a)news.albasani.net>,
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
> ...
>> It is of course mandatory in Windows, as all that crappy FAT stuff cant
>> easily be changed without a tool to do it for you by the average
>> brainless windows user.
>
> You appear to have some, er, issues, Sir. Do you have good insurance?
> Does it cover psychiatric care?
>
Moi?

Not at all.

Juts too many years in IT.

Nothing a few minutes using some of this lovely Linux software wont cure
tho,