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From: mpc755 on 9 Jul 2010 18:02 On Jul 8, 11:15 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 8, 1:06 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 5, 3:34 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jul 5, 3:28 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule displaces dark matter. > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated dark matter displacement > > > > wave. The C-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the > > > > wave. The C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double > > > > slit experiment. The associated dark matter displacement wave enters > > > > and exits the available slits. When the dark matter displacement wave > > > > exits the slits it creates interference which alters the direction the > > > > C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence > > > > of the associated dark matter displacement wave (i.e. turns it into > > > > chop) and there is no interference. > > > > > Why is a particle always detected exiting a single slit in a double > > > > slit experiment? > > > > > Because it always exits a single slit. > > > > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?' > > > A. EINSTEINhttp://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf > > > > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass > > > diminishes by L/c2." > > > > The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer > > > exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark > > > matter. As matter transitions to dark matter it expands in three > > > dimensions. The effect this transition has on the neighboring dark > > > matter and matter is energy. > > > Matter converts to dark matter. > > The physical effects of the conversion is energy. > > Mass is conserved. > > Matter does not convert to energy. > Mater converts to dark matter. > > If you think matter converts to energy then explain what occurs > physically in nature to cause this to occur. > > Also, explain what physically occurs in nature to cause matter to not > convert to dark matter. > > Matter converts to dark matter. > The physical effects of the conversion is energy. > Mass is conserved. 'Other types of matter' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matter#Dark_energy "Fully 70% of the matter density in the universe appears to be in the form of dark energy. Twenty-six percent is dark matter. Only 4% is ordinary matter. So less than 1 part in 20 is made out of matter we have observed experimentally or described in the standard model of particle physics. Of the other 96%, apart from the properties just mentioned, we know absolutely nothing. Lee Smolin: The Trouble with Physics, p. 1" We know dark matter has mass. Therefore dark matter is displaced by matter. Dark matter displaces back. The displacing back is the pressure the displaced dark matter exerts towards matter. The pressure exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is gravity. A moving particle displaces dark matter. A moving particle has an associated dark matter displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the moving particle travels a single path and enters and exits a single slit. The associated dark matter displacement wave enters and exits multiple slits and creates interference upon exiting the slits. The interference alters the direction the particle travels. Detecting the particle causes decoherence of the associated dark matter displacement wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference. 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?' A. EINSTEIN http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c2." The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark matter. As matter transitions to dark matter it expands in three dimensions. The effect this transition has on the neighboring dark matter and matter is energy. Matter converts to dark matter. The physical effects of this transformation is energy. Mass is conserved.
From: BURT on 9 Jul 2010 18:26 On Jul 9, 3:02 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 8, 11:15 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 8, 1:06 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jul 5, 3:34 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 5, 3:28 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule displaces dark matter. > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated dark matter displacement > > > > > wave. The C-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the > > > > > wave. The C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double > > > > > slit experiment. The associated dark matter displacement wave enters > > > > > and exits the available slits. When the dark matter displacement wave > > > > > exits the slits it creates interference which alters the direction the > > > > > C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence > > > > > of the associated dark matter displacement wave (i.e. turns it into > > > > > chop) and there is no interference. > > > > > > Why is a particle always detected exiting a single slit in a double > > > > > slit experiment? > > > > > > Because it always exits a single slit. > > > > > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?' > > > > A. EINSTEINhttp://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf > > > > > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass > > > > diminishes by L/c2." > > > > > The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer > > > > exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark > > > > matter. As matter transitions to dark matter it expands in three > > > > dimensions. The effect this transition has on the neighboring dark > > > > matter and matter is energy. > > > > Matter converts to dark matter. > > > The physical effects of the conversion is energy. > > > Mass is conserved. > > > Matter does not convert to energy. > > Mater converts to dark matter. > > > If you think matter converts to energy then explain what occurs > > physically in nature to cause this to occur. > > > Also, explain what physically occurs in nature to cause matter to not > > convert to dark matter. > > > Matter converts to dark matter. > > The physical effects of the conversion is energy. > > Mass is conserved. > > 'Other types of matter'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matter#Dark_energy > > "Fully 70% of the matter density in the universe appears to be in the > form of dark energy. Twenty-six percent is dark matter. Only 4% is > ordinary matter. So less than 1 part in 20 is made out of matter we > have observed experimentally or described in the standard model of > particle physics. Of the other 96%, apart from the properties just > mentioned, we know absolutely nothing. Lee Smolin: The Trouble with > Physics, p. 1" > > We know dark matter has mass. Therefore dark matter is displaced by > matter. Dark matter displaces back. The displacing back is the > pressure the displaced dark matter exerts towards matter. The pressure > exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is gravity. > > A moving particle displaces dark matter. A moving particle has an > associated dark matter displacement wave. In a double slit experiment > the moving particle travels a single path and enters and exits a > single slit. The associated dark matter displacement wave enters and > exits multiple slits and creates interference upon exiting the slits. > The interference alters the direction the particle travels. Detecting > the particle causes decoherence of the associated dark matter > displacement wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no > interference. > > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?' > A. EINSTEINhttp://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf > > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass > diminishes by L/c2." > > The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer > exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark > matter. As matter transitions to dark matter it expands in three > dimensions. The effect this transition has on the neighboring dark > matter and matter is energy. > > Matter converts to dark matter. > The physical effects of this transformation is energy. > > Mass is conserved.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - If mass is everywhere we would gather it as we moved through it. This is the death null for free energy in space. Science will make its correction to Quantum vacuum fluctuations. There is no free energy in empty space for as the Earth goes around the Sun forever it would be gathering space energy to itself and it is not. Mitch Raemsch
From: PD on 9 Jul 2010 18:42 On Jul 9, 5:26 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jul 9, 3:02 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 8, 11:15 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jul 8, 1:06 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 5, 3:34 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jul 5, 3:28 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule displaces dark matter. > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated dark matter displacement > > > > > > wave. The C-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the > > > > > > wave. The C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double > > > > > > slit experiment. The associated dark matter displacement wave enters > > > > > > and exits the available slits. When the dark matter displacement wave > > > > > > exits the slits it creates interference which alters the direction the > > > > > > C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence > > > > > > of the associated dark matter displacement wave (i.e. turns it into > > > > > > chop) and there is no interference. > > > > > > > Why is a particle always detected exiting a single slit in a double > > > > > > slit experiment? > > > > > > > Because it always exits a single slit. > > > > > > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?' > > > > > A. EINSTEINhttp://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf > > > > > > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass > > > > > diminishes by L/c2." > > > > > > The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer > > > > > exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark > > > > > matter. As matter transitions to dark matter it expands in three > > > > > dimensions. The effect this transition has on the neighboring dark > > > > > matter and matter is energy. > > > > > Matter converts to dark matter. > > > > The physical effects of the conversion is energy. > > > > Mass is conserved. > > > > Matter does not convert to energy. > > > Mater converts to dark matter. > > > > If you think matter converts to energy then explain what occurs > > > physically in nature to cause this to occur. > > > > Also, explain what physically occurs in nature to cause matter to not > > > convert to dark matter. > > > > Matter converts to dark matter. > > > The physical effects of the conversion is energy. > > > Mass is conserved. > > > 'Other types of matter'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matter#Dark_energy > > > "Fully 70% of the matter density in the universe appears to be in the > > form of dark energy. Twenty-six percent is dark matter. Only 4% is > > ordinary matter. So less than 1 part in 20 is made out of matter we > > have observed experimentally or described in the standard model of > > particle physics. Of the other 96%, apart from the properties just > > mentioned, we know absolutely nothing. Lee Smolin: The Trouble with > > Physics, p. 1" > > > We know dark matter has mass. Therefore dark matter is displaced by > > matter. Dark matter displaces back. The displacing back is the > > pressure the displaced dark matter exerts towards matter. The pressure > > exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is gravity. > > > A moving particle displaces dark matter. A moving particle has an > > associated dark matter displacement wave. In a double slit experiment > > the moving particle travels a single path and enters and exits a > > single slit. The associated dark matter displacement wave enters and > > exits multiple slits and creates interference upon exiting the slits. > > The interference alters the direction the particle travels. Detecting > > the particle causes decoherence of the associated dark matter > > displacement wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no > > interference. > > > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?' > > A. EINSTEINhttp://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf > > > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass > > diminishes by L/c2." > > > The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer > > exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark > > matter. As matter transitions to dark matter it expands in three > > dimensions. The effect this transition has on the neighboring dark > > matter and matter is energy. > > > Matter converts to dark matter. > > The physical effects of this transformation is energy. > > > Mass is conserved.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > If mass is everywhere we would gather it as we moved through it. > This is the death null for free energy in space. Science will make its > correction to Quantum vacuum fluctuations. There is no free energy in > empty space for as the Earth goes around the Sun forever it would be > gathering space energy to itself and it is not. > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Rats. Mike Cavedon talks to himself until a street urchin comments back. Broke his string, Mitch.
From: mpc755 on 9 Jul 2010 18:46 On Jul 9, 6:26 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jul 9, 3:02 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 8, 11:15 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jul 8, 1:06 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 5, 3:34 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jul 5, 3:28 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule displaces dark matter. > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated dark matter displacement > > > > > > wave. The C-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the > > > > > > wave. The C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double > > > > > > slit experiment. The associated dark matter displacement wave enters > > > > > > and exits the available slits. When the dark matter displacement wave > > > > > > exits the slits it creates interference which alters the direction the > > > > > > C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence > > > > > > of the associated dark matter displacement wave (i.e. turns it into > > > > > > chop) and there is no interference. > > > > > > > Why is a particle always detected exiting a single slit in a double > > > > > > slit experiment? > > > > > > > Because it always exits a single slit. > > > > > > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?' > > > > > A. EINSTEINhttp://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf > > > > > > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass > > > > > diminishes by L/c2." > > > > > > The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer > > > > > exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark > > > > > matter. As matter transitions to dark matter it expands in three > > > > > dimensions. The effect this transition has on the neighboring dark > > > > > matter and matter is energy. > > > > > Matter converts to dark matter. > > > > The physical effects of the conversion is energy. > > > > Mass is conserved. > > > > Matter does not convert to energy. > > > Mater converts to dark matter. > > > > If you think matter converts to energy then explain what occurs > > > physically in nature to cause this to occur. > > > > Also, explain what physically occurs in nature to cause matter to not > > > convert to dark matter. > > > > Matter converts to dark matter. > > > The physical effects of the conversion is energy. > > > Mass is conserved. > > > 'Other types of matter'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matter#Dark_energy > > > "Fully 70% of the matter density in the universe appears to be in the > > form of dark energy. Twenty-six percent is dark matter. Only 4% is > > ordinary matter. So less than 1 part in 20 is made out of matter we > > have observed experimentally or described in the standard model of > > particle physics. Of the other 96%, apart from the properties just > > mentioned, we know absolutely nothing. Lee Smolin: The Trouble with > > Physics, p. 1" > > > We know dark matter has mass. Therefore dark matter is displaced by > > matter. Dark matter displaces back. The displacing back is the > > pressure the displaced dark matter exerts towards matter. The pressure > > exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is gravity. > > > A moving particle displaces dark matter. A moving particle has an > > associated dark matter displacement wave. In a double slit experiment > > the moving particle travels a single path and enters and exits a > > single slit. The associated dark matter displacement wave enters and > > exits multiple slits and creates interference upon exiting the slits. > > The interference alters the direction the particle travels. Detecting > > the particle causes decoherence of the associated dark matter > > displacement wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no > > interference. > > > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?' > > A. EINSTEINhttp://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf > > > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass > > diminishes by L/c2." > > > The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer > > exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark > > matter. As matter transitions to dark matter it expands in three > > dimensions. The effect this transition has on the neighboring dark > > matter and matter is energy. > > > Matter converts to dark matter. > > The physical effects of this transformation is energy. > > > Mass is conserved.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > If mass is everywhere we would gather it as we moved through it. > This is the death null for free energy in space. Science will make its > correction to Quantum vacuum fluctuations. There is no free energy in > empty space for as the Earth goes around the Sun forever it would be > gathering space energy to itself and it is not. > > Mitch Raemsch Matter and dark matter are different states of the same material. Dark matter is displaced by matter. Dark matter is not at rest when displaced and 'displaced back'. The 'displacing back' is the pressure exerted by dark matter towards matter. The pressure exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is gravity. A moving particle has an associated dark matter displacement wave. The particle travels a single path and enters and exits a single slit in a double slit experiment. The associated wave enters and exits multiple slits and creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the direction the particle travels. Detecting the particle causes decoherence of the associated wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference. 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?' A. EINSTEIN http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c2." The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark matter. As matter transitions to dark matter it expands in three dimensions. The effect this transition has on the neighboring dark matter and matter is energy. Matter converts to dark matter. The physical effects of this transformation is energy. Mass is conserved.
From: BURT on 9 Jul 2010 18:51
On Jul 9, 3:46 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 9, 6:26 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 9, 3:02 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jul 8, 11:15 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 8, 1:06 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jul 5, 3:34 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 5, 3:28 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule displaces dark matter. > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated dark matter displacement > > > > > > > wave. The C-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the > > > > > > > wave. The C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double > > > > > > > slit experiment. The associated dark matter displacement wave enters > > > > > > > and exits the available slits. When the dark matter displacement wave > > > > > > > exits the slits it creates interference which alters the direction the > > > > > > > C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence > > > > > > > of the associated dark matter displacement wave (i.e. turns it into > > > > > > > chop) and there is no interference. > > > > > > > > Why is a particle always detected exiting a single slit in a double > > > > > > > slit experiment? > > > > > > > > Because it always exits a single slit. > > > > > > > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?' > > > > > > A. EINSTEINhttp://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf > > > > > > > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass > > > > > > diminishes by L/c2." > > > > > > > The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer > > > > > > exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark > > > > > > matter. As matter transitions to dark matter it expands in three > > > > > > dimensions. The effect this transition has on the neighboring dark > > > > > > matter and matter is energy. > > > > > > Matter converts to dark matter. > > > > > The physical effects of the conversion is energy. > > > > > Mass is conserved. > > > > > Matter does not convert to energy. > > > > Mater converts to dark matter. > > > > > If you think matter converts to energy then explain what occurs > > > > physically in nature to cause this to occur. > > > > > Also, explain what physically occurs in nature to cause matter to not > > > > convert to dark matter. > > > > > Matter converts to dark matter. > > > > The physical effects of the conversion is energy. > > > > Mass is conserved. > > > > 'Other types of matter'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matter#Dark_energy > > > > "Fully 70% of the matter density in the universe appears to be in the > > > form of dark energy. Twenty-six percent is dark matter. Only 4% is > > > ordinary matter. So less than 1 part in 20 is made out of matter we > > > have observed experimentally or described in the standard model of > > > particle physics. Of the other 96%, apart from the properties just > > > mentioned, we know absolutely nothing. Lee Smolin: The Trouble with > > > Physics, p. 1" > > > > We know dark matter has mass. Therefore dark matter is displaced by > > > matter. Dark matter displaces back. The displacing back is the > > > pressure the displaced dark matter exerts towards matter. The pressure > > > exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is gravity. > > > > A moving particle displaces dark matter. A moving particle has an > > > associated dark matter displacement wave. In a double slit experiment > > > the moving particle travels a single path and enters and exits a > > > single slit. The associated dark matter displacement wave enters and > > > exits multiple slits and creates interference upon exiting the slits. > > > The interference alters the direction the particle travels. Detecting > > > the particle causes decoherence of the associated dark matter > > > displacement wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no > > > interference. > > > > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?' > > > A. EINSTEINhttp://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf > > > > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass > > > diminishes by L/c2." > > > > The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer > > > exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark > > > matter. As matter transitions to dark matter it expands in three > > > dimensions. The effect this transition has on the neighboring dark > > > matter and matter is energy. > > > > Matter converts to dark matter. > > > The physical effects of this transformation is energy. > > > > Mass is conserved.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > If mass is everywhere we would gather it as we moved through it. > > This is the death null for free energy in space. Science will make its > > correction to Quantum vacuum fluctuations. There is no free energy in > > empty space for as the Earth goes around the Sun forever it would be > > gathering space energy to itself and it is not. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > Matter and dark matter are different states of the same material. > Dark matter is displaced by matter. > Dark matter is not at rest when displaced and 'displaced back'. > The 'displacing back' is the pressure exerted by dark matter towards > matter. > The pressure exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is > gravity. > > A moving particle has an associated dark matter displacement wave. The > particle travels a single path and enters and exits a single slit in a > double slit experiment. The associated wave enters and exits multiple > slits and creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the > direction the particle travels. Detecting the particle causes > decoherence of the associated wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and > there is no interference. > > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?' > A. EINSTEINhttp://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf > > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass > diminishes by L/c2." > > The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer > exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark > matter. As matter transitions to dark matter it expands in three > dimensions. The effect this transition has on the neighboring dark > matter and matter is energy. > > Matter converts to dark matter. > The physical effects of this transformation is energy. > > Mass is conserved.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - You would always bump into energy in space. Mitch Raemsch |