From: Drazic on 4 May 2010 07:15 "RichA" <rander3127(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:5e868267-67b8-46dd-b7ff-c70e6aefdaaa(a)q32g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... > Dear camera makers; reducing releases of cameras in a recession makes > about as much sense as cutting back advertising to save money. All > you do is allow your competition to take (and keep) market share. If > the market has shrunk from 100 to 80 (arbitrary numbers) do think > being LESS visible is going to help your company?? You are now > fighting over a smaller pie, so get the F--- in there and produce > something. I think it's more about the importance of releasing something that people want/need, at a reasonable price. To try and put it into perspective, people will pay more for a car with air con, but they don't really care about digital climate control, as long as it blows cold air when they need it. Sure digital climate control with individual temperatures on each side looks good, but it doesn't really serve a useful purpose. Just out of interest, what do you want the camera's to do that they can't at the moment? It's not a dig, just interested.
From: Doug McDonald on 4 May 2010 08:58 On 5/4/2010 6:15 AM, Drazic wrote: > > Just out of interest, what do you want the camera's to do that they > can't at the moment? > > It's not a dig, just interested. I'll tell what I want: 1) better autofocus. This means a smaller spots, all of which are full X style and work at f/2.8. It also means they actually work and actually focus on what they are aimed at. 2) a histogram superimposed on a Live View so one can adjust exposure while aiming the camera. This should be the histogram for RAW mode files, not after JPEGization. Other than that, my current camera, an old 30D, works fine. Doug McDonald
From: Ray Fischer on 4 May 2010 09:07 Doug McDonald <mcdonald(a)scs.uiuc.edu.remove.invalid> wrote: > Drazic wrote: >> Just out of interest, what do you want the camera's to do that they >> can't at the moment? >> >> It's not a dig, just interested. > >I'll tell what I want: > >1) better autofocus. This means a smaller spots, all of which are >full X style and work at f/2.8. It also means they actually work >and actually focus on what they are aimed at. You've already got that. The problem is that a scene isn't a spot and when you add multiple focus points then the camera has to decide which point to use and for how long. -- Ray Fischer rfischer(a)sonic.net
From: C.P. Robbins on 4 May 2010 09:20 On Tue, 04 May 2010 07:58:59 -0500, Doug McDonald <mcdonald(a)scs.uiuc.edu.remove.invalid> wrote: >On 5/4/2010 6:15 AM, Drazic wrote: > >> >> Just out of interest, what do you want the camera's to do that they >> can't at the moment? >> >> It's not a dig, just interested. > >I'll tell what I want: > >1) better autofocus. This means a smaller spots, all of which are >full X style and work at f/2.8. It also means they actually work >and actually focus on what they are aimed at. Any of the contrast-detection cameras can do that. > >2) a histogram superimposed on a Live View so one can >adjust exposure while aiming the camera. This should be >the histogram for RAW mode files, not after JPEGization. Any of the CHDK capable cameras can do that, in 7 different flavors of histograms. Because the JPG data is accurately representing the RAW data to begin with. It is only in cameras that are poorly programmed where the JPG output will not reflect the raw sensor data. Unfortunately that is the case in most all DSLR cameras. DSLR owners don't want to admit to being duped into buying flawed hardware and having to spend extra money and time in trying to repair what their cameras failed to provide in the first place. Are you truly this inexperienced and naive?
From: bugbear on 4 May 2010 10:11
C.P. Robbins wrote: > On Tue, 04 May 2010 07:58:59 -0500, Doug McDonald > <mcdonald(a)scs.uiuc.edu.remove.invalid> wrote: > >> 2) a histogram superimposed on a Live View so one can >> adjust exposure while aiming the camera. This should be >> the histogram for RAW mode files, not after JPEGization. > > Any of the CHDK capable cameras can do that, in 7 different flavors of > histograms. And I've never found it useful enough to turn it on. BugBear (a630 + CHDK) |