From: Sthu Deus on
Thank You for Your time and answer, Wolodja:

> Why don't you just use the images provided by kmuto? They are exactly
> what you are looking for. I don't get your resistence ...

No any resistance absolutely! I think too that it is the thing I'm
looking for. Just two important things remain for me w/ the solution:

1. If it is trustable/secure as the stable Debian (for for now all I
have is just phrases like "believe me" w/ no any farther approval from
the Debian project). In other words and including of all I have on that
item is this: I can not make strong relationship of the author's work w/
the Debian project - I have been told he is one of the developers but,
searching for any info on him at the debian.org or a list of
developers - was unsuccessful for me. So, I even can not check the fact
as if he is still the Debian developer. Also, I do not know the Debian
project developers opinion|accreditation on his this work (the CDs he
makes).

2. I see that I still will need probably, to have /boot at ext3 - the
thing I do not want, so I want to know a lot on this before I try to
have ext4 again.


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From: Wolodja Wentland on
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 18:00 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote:
> Thank You for Your time and answer, Wolodja:
>
> > Why don't you just use the images provided by kmuto? They are
> > exactly what you are looking for. I don't get your resistence ...
>
> No any resistance absolutely! I think too that it is the thing I'm
> looking for. Just two important things remain for me w/ the solution:
>
> 1. If it is trustable/secure as the stable Debian (for for now all I
> have is just phrases like "believe me" w/ no any farther approval from
> the Debian project). In other words and including of all I have on
> that item is this: I can not make strong relationship of the author's
> work w/ the Debian project - I have been told he is one of the
> developers but, searching for any info on him at the debian.org or a
> list of developers - was unsuccessful for me. So, I even can not
> check the fact as if he is still the Debian developer

Go to http://db.debian.org/search.cgi and search for

First name: Kenshi
Last name: Muto

Which will provide further information about Kenshi like his IRC name
(i.e. kmuto) and his GPG fingerprint. You could also check for his key
in the "debian-keyring" keyring.

> . Also, I do not know the Debian project developers
> opinion|accreditation on his this work (the CDs he makes).

Google for "Kenshi Muto Debian" and "Kenshi Muto site:lists.debian.org"
and you should get enough information to answer that question. I am not
aware of any "official" Debian initiated poll that answers the question
"What do you think of kmuto's work?" and doubt that something like this
will/should ever happen.


> 2. I see that I still will need probably, to have /boot at ext3 - the
> thing I do not want, so I want to know a lot on this before I try to
> have ext4 again.

Using ext4 for /boot is discouraged but you can give it a try. Why do
you need /boot to be ext4?

Kind regards

Wolodja
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From: Steve McIntyre on
Sthu Deus wrote:
>Thank You for Your time and answer, Wolodja:
>
>> Why don't you just use the images provided by kmuto? They are exactly
>> what you are looking for. I don't get your resistence ...
>
>No any resistance absolutely! I think too that it is the thing I'm
>looking for. Just two important things remain for me w/ the solution:
>
>1. If it is trustable/secure as the stable Debian (for for now all I
>have is just phrases like "believe me" w/ no any farther approval from
>the Debian project). In other words and including of all I have on that
>item is this: I can not make strong relationship of the author's work w/
>the Debian project - I have been told he is one of the developers but,
>searching for any info on him at the debian.org or a list of
>developers - was unsuccessful for me. So, I even can not check the fact
>as if he is still the Debian developer.

You can check at db.debian.org, or look for his PGP key in the
debian-keyring package:

$ gpg --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg --list-key muto

>Also, I do not know the Debian project developers
>opinion|accreditation on his this work (the CDs he makes).

As an ex-DPL and the guy who puts together the official release Debian
CDs, I can vouch for his work. It's been very useful for me in the past.

--
Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK. steve(a)einval.com
Getting a SCSI chain working is perfectly simple if you remember that there
must be exactly three terminations: one on one end of the cable, one on the
far end, and the goat, terminated over the SCSI chain with a silver-handled
knife whilst burning *black* candles. --- Anthony DeBoer


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From: Klistvud on
Dne, 26. 07. 2010 14:08:50 je Wolodja Wentland napisal(a):
> > 1. If it is trustable/secure as the stable Debian (for for now all I
> > have is just phrases like "believe me" w/ no any farther approval
> from
> > the Debian project). In other words and including of all I have on
> > that item is this: I can not make strong relationship of the
> author's
> > work w/ the Debian project - I have been told he is one of the
> > developers but, searching for any info on him at the debian.org or a
> > list of developers - was unsuccessful for me. So, I even can not
> > check the fact as if he is still the Debian developer
>
> Go to http://db.debian.org/search.cgi and search for
>
> First name: Kenshi
> Last name: Muto
>
> Which will provide further information about Kenshi like his IRC name
> (i.e. kmuto) and his GPG fingerprint. You could also check for his key
> in the "debian-keyring" keyring.
>
> > . Also, I do not know the Debian project developers
> > opinion|accreditation on his this work (the CDs he makes).
>
> Google for "Kenshi Muto Debian" and "Kenshi Muto
> site:lists.debian.org"
> and you should get enough information to answer that question. I am
> not
> aware of any "official" Debian initiated poll that answers the
> question
> "What do you think of kmuto's work?" and doubt that something like
> this
> will/should ever happen.
>

Given that there is at least one known *wife-murderer* among
filesystems developers and that, according to lore, there have been
quite some *weed-smokers* among the early GNU developers, isn't all
this overscrutinizing of poor Kenshi Muto starting to feel a bit
disproportionate?

Just my 2 offtopic cents :)

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From: Tom H on
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Klistvud <quotations(a)aliceadsl.fr> wrote:
> Dne, 26. 07. 2010 14:08:50 je Wolodja Wentland napisal(a):
>>
>> > 1. If it is trustable/secure as the stable Debian (for for now all I
>> > have is just phrases like "believe me" w/ no any farther approval from
>> > the Debian project). In other words and including of all I have on
>> > that item is this: I can not make strong relationship of the author's
>> > work w/ the Debian project - I have been told he is one of the
>> > developers but, searching for any info on him at the debian.org or a
>> > list of developers - was unsuccessful for me.  So, I even can not
>> > check the fact as if he is still the Debian developer
>>
>> Go to http://db.debian.org/search.cgi and search for
>>
>> First name: Kenshi
>> Last name:  Muto
>>
>> Which will provide further information about Kenshi like his IRC name
>> (i.e. kmuto) and his GPG fingerprint. You could also check for his key
>> in the "debian-keyring" keyring.
>>
>> > . Also, I do not know the Debian project developers
>> > opinion|accreditation on his this work (the CDs he makes).
>>
>> Google for "Kenshi Muto Debian" and "Kenshi Muto site:lists.debian.org"
>> and you should get enough information to answer that question. I am not
>> aware of any "official" Debian initiated poll that answers the question
>> "What do you think of kmuto's work?" and doubt that something like this
>> will/should ever happen.
>>
>
> Given that there is at least one known *wife-murderer* among filesystems
> developers and that, according to lore, there have been quite some
> *weed-smokers* among the early GNU developers, isn't all this
> overscrutinizing of poor Kenshi Muto starting to feel a bit
> disproportionate?
>
> Just my 2 offtopic cents :)

+1

Totally OTT.


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