From: Robert Holtzman on
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:15:22AM +0200, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
> Robert Holtzman schreef:
> >On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 06:03:37PM -0500, Jordon Bedwell wrote:
> >>On 7/28/10 4:40 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote:
> >>>What was the reason for that? The usual plan is to put /home, at least,
> >>>on a separate partition.
> >>>
> >>The *usual* plan is to put it on a separate drive (but since debian
> >>can't judge how smart a user is ~ they put it on the same drive
> >>different partition) or if you use network storage, to keep it on
> >>the same drive in the same partition. Not everybody runs critical
> >>systems or even stores anything in /home. I know on my Debian
> >>installs nothing is in /home/username.
> >
> >Dandy *if* you have two drives. How many home users would that be?
> Also, multiple partitions lose their usefulness for a single-user
> linux machine. I do not run a mail server which justifies a separate
> /var, ans since I can fill /usr or /etc just as well as /home,
> there's no real reason to create multiple partitions. The only
> exception of course is a separate /boot to avoid boot problems.

I disagree. The only time multiple partitions lose their usefulness is in
the event of a hard drive failure or massive power surge *and* there is no
backup. Otherwise /home on a separate partition allows the installation
of another OS without formatting /home. I've done this a number of times
and it works beautifully, allowing me to retain a number of
configuration scripts.

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From: Sthu Deus on
Thank You for Your time and answer, Robert:

> What was the reason for that? The usual plan is to put /home, at
> least, on a separate partition.

I've heard about diver strategies on FS dividing but like some kind
of optimization that is in FS view is this: the free space is
dynamically shared for all the needs (OS, app.s, users).

Actually, now I have divided it (and therefore got, partially ext4 FS!
:) though for execution reason (that is programs are separated from
data), yet the dynamics I have lost w/ it still does not make me quiet
happy.

OK. I have started another thread called "Debian FS structure" - as the
primary subject vanished away - if You would, please reply there.


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From: Sthu Deus on
Thank You for Your time and answer, Sjoerd:

> The only exception of course is a
> separate /boot to avoid boot problems.

May You'll be laughing but this did now work for me. - I had the boot
problems.


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From: Sjoerd Hardeman on
Robert Holtzman schreef:
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:15:22AM +0200, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
>> Robert Holtzman schreef:
>>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 06:03:37PM -0500, Jordon Bedwell wrote:
>>>> On 7/28/10 4:40 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote:
>>>>> What was the reason for that? The usual plan is to put /home, at least,
>>>>> on a separate partition.
>>>>>
>>>> The *usual* plan is to put it on a separate drive (but since debian
>>>> can't judge how smart a user is ~ they put it on the same drive
>>>> different partition) or if you use network storage, to keep it on
>>>> the same drive in the same partition. Not everybody runs critical
>>>> systems or even stores anything in /home. I know on my Debian
>>>> installs nothing is in /home/username.
>>> Dandy *if* you have two drives. How many home users would that be?
>> Also, multiple partitions lose their usefulness for a single-user
>> linux machine. I do not run a mail server which justifies a separate
>> /var, ans since I can fill /usr or /etc just as well as /home,
>> there's no real reason to create multiple partitions. The only
>> exception of course is a separate /boot to avoid boot problems.
>
> I disagree. The only time multiple partitions lose their usefulness is in
> the event of a hard drive failure or massive power surge *and* there is no
> backup. Otherwise /home on a separate partition allows the installation
> of another OS without formatting /home. I've done this a number of times
> and it works beautifully, allowing me to retain a number of
> configuration scripts.
Good point. Indeed also when you want to have multiple simultaneous
installations sharing /home, you need it in a separate partition.
Anyway, for my debian laptop, I am not doing such fancy things, so
putting everything in one big partition made sense to me.
@Sthu: As said, boot problems might be a reason for having a spare
/boot. However, I managed to get grub2 working, which boots fine from my
ext4 root partition.

Sjoerd