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From: franklinhu on 4 Jun 2010 14:40
On Jun 1, 5:14 pm, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> franklinhu wrote:
> > The detection of a tau-neutrino from a muon-neutrino beam has been
> > described in the article:
>
> >http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleases/Releases2010/PR08.10E.html
>
> > However, I have a fundamental question about whether this detection
> > shows that muon neutrinos convert into tau neutrinos.
>
> > I have questioned the validity of the statement that there really are
> > 3 types of neutrinos based on the evidence from Bookhaven in 1962
> > where it was determined that there were at least 2 type of neutrinos
> > since a muon neutrino beam produced only muons and no electrons.
>
> > But how could we really determine that there are 2 neutrino types when
> > only 1 type of neutrino was used in the experiment?
>
> Detection of two, emission of one? The reasoning doesn't strike me as
> complicated.
>
What do mean by "dectection of two"?

What we have is detection of one (muon type), emission of one (muon
type) with the conclusion that there must be 2 types (muon and
electron)

Completely illogical.

> > A similar
> > experiment using only electron neutrinos was not performed which
> > leaves open the possiblity that the conditions were simply not
> > favorable to producing electron neutrinos and that all neutrinos are
> > really the same.
>
> Uhhh, no. If your knowledge of the subject consists only what was done in
> Brookhaven in '62, you should do yourself a favor and catch up.

I've tried, but find nothing but all this blather about missing
neutrinos which I think is simply due to this thinking that there are
3 types of neutrinos instead of only 1. You see, if there is only one
kind of neutrino coming out of the sun, and they can produce electron,
muon and tau reactions, then if you only measure the electrons, you
will miss out on all the muon and tau reactions. You have to measure
all 3 to get the total neutrino count - and that is exactly what we
have found. No missing neutrinos if you consider all detected
neutrinos to be of the same type.

This is a very foundational question. Almost none of the current
neutrino research means anything if there is only 1 type of neutrino.
Billions of dollars are being spent over a fundamental
misunderstanding about how neutrinos interact with matter.


>
> > See my google groups discussion:
>
> >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/372392984ac87e16
>
> >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/b37030e0d7b6ac8b
>
> > If all neutrinos are in fact, the same
>
> They aren't. Familiarize yourself with the state of the art instead of mid
> 20th century knowledge.

What surprises me, is that we spend billions of dollars on neutrino
laboratories without ever first confirming the results of our 1962
knowledge. Honestly, can you even point to replication of the 1962
experiment confirming the results? Considering it took a one of a kind
acclerator and a battleship worth of iron to do the original
experiment, I doubt it.

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