Does inductive reasoning lead to knowledge?
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From: jmfbahciv on 8 Jan 2010 10:00 J. Clarke wrote: > dorayme wrote: >> In article <hi6gu1$b7n$3(a)news.eternal-september.org>, >> Les Cargill <lcargill99(a)comcast.net> wrote: >> >>> Marshall wrote: >>>> On Jan 7, 6:15 pm, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote: >>>>>>> In math, which is really a logic game, the >>>>>>> axioms don't necessarily have any basis in the physical universe, >>>>>> It is an open question whether it is not *just* a logic game. >>>>>> There are semantics. And it is not clear what "having a basis in >>>>>> the physical universe" really means. >>>>> No, it is not an open question. Mathematics is a game, an >>>>> intellectual exercise, any relation that it bears to practical >>>>> reality is purely coincidental. >>>> That's bullshit. >>>> >>>> >>>> Marshall >>> >>> Not really. >>> >> >> Really deep Les! Stafford would be so proud of your succinctness. You >> two share a desk in the basketweaving class? > > Funny how you consider anybody who actually knows anything about math to be > "basketweaving". > Which also requires knowledge he doesn't have. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 8 Jan 2010 10:04 dorayme wrote: > In article <hi6vno031jr(a)news3.newsguy.com>, > "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet(a)cox.net> wrote: > >> I'm seeing "axiom" >> tossed around here by people who clearly don't understand how the term is >> used in mathematics. > > You are seeing no such thing, you are a hypocrite. You tried your best > to manufacture this and when things go sticky for you, you turned to > personal denigration. It is all there on the record. > I think you are confusing posters. /BAH
From: PD on 8 Jan 2010 09:56 On Jan 7, 11:29 pm, Michael Gordge <mikegor...(a)xtra.co.nz> wrote: > On Jan 8, 6:24 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I know what you're asking. I asked you whether Euclid's fifth > > postulate is a postulate or not. > > What are the premises? Are the lines converging or they parallel? They > cant be both. Perhaps you should quote the fifth postulate to answer your own idiotic question. > > You do realize there are no lines in reality, they are mind dependent > and only matter to man's survival, when a problem of matter / survival > is solved with them. Ah, so since there are no lines in reality, then by that claim Euclid's Fifth Postulate is not a postulate? I'm just trying to get a yes or no answer out of you. You seem to be challenged by simplicity. > > MG
From: J. Clarke on 8 Jan 2010 09:43 dorayme wrote: > In article <hi6vno031jr(a)news3.newsguy.com>, > "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet(a)cox.net> wrote: > >> I'm seeing "axiom" >> tossed around here by people who clearly don't understand how the >> term is used in mathematics. > > You are seeing no such thing, you are a hypocrite. You tried your best > to manufacture this and when things go sticky for you, you turned to > personal denigration. It is all there on the record. Uh huh. Find a PhD mathematician who disagrees with me.
From: Marshall on 8 Jan 2010 10:33
On Jan 8, 6:43 am, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote: > dorayme wrote: > > In article <hi6vno03...(a)news3.newsguy.com>, > > "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote: > > >> I'm seeing "axiom" > >> tossed around here by people who clearly don't understand how the > >> term is used in mathematics. > > > You are seeing no such thing, you are a hypocrite. You tried your best > > to manufacture this and when things go sticky for you, you turned to > > personal denigration. It is all there on the record. > > Uh huh. Find a PhD mathematician who disagrees with me. Find a PhD logician who thinks that's a good argument. Marshall |