Dumbed down consumer electronics: Adding DTV channels
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From: Jim Thompson on 3 Aug 2010 15:35 On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 12:33:53 -0700, "Joel Koltner" <zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote in >message news:q2qg5654r2giru6mqtgkbse8gq4hl3qd6k(a)4ax.com... >> On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 11:50:19 -0700, "Joel Koltner" >> I'll dig it out of storage. I'm not sure what model it is. > >Great, thanks. > >> Would the HD radio head work as a home unit? KBAQ is classical music. > >It would need a 12V power supply (I have plenty of those) and a box, but in >general, yes. However, I might have a better option -- there's a little-used >component-style HD radio that I can probably lay my hands on too. (Sangean >HDT-1X -- it has line-level RCA jack outputs as well as a digital optical >SPDIF output, so you still need a stereo amplifier to drive your speakers...) > >---Joel I have a little book-shelf JVC to drive the speakers. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | Spice is like a sports car... Performance only as good as the person behind the wheel.
From: Joerg on 3 Aug 2010 16:06 Jim Thompson wrote: > On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 11:37:36 -0700, "Joel Koltner" > <zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> "Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote in >> message news:mqmg56hgcrirnkd153u6vccfa4qrtplk96(a)4ax.com... >>> I have Sirius in the Q45, but I do web radio in my office...Roku >>> Soundbridge. >> Did the Q45 come with the Sirius receiver built-in, or did you add an >> aftermarket one to it? > > Came with. > > My #1 son gave me a Panasonic head (for my truck) and I have a > matching Sirius plug-in. But with a 10-year-old truck with only > ~30,000 miles I can't rationalize the ~$13/month. > So if you change vehicles they make you pay again? Eeuw. [...] -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: Joerg on 3 Aug 2010 16:11 Martin Brown wrote: > On 03/08/2010 16:35, Joerg wrote: >> Martin Brown wrote: > >>> Panasonic kit sold in Europe will allow any amount of manual DTV tuning >>> to add individual channels if you have the patience to do it. Autoscan >>> tends to be more convenient when new channels pop (briefly) into >>> existence. The most annoying thing is that several designs reset the >>> favourites lists whenever you make a change using autoscan. >>> >> >> Out here it's only he dumbed-down variety, only auto-scan. So the drill >> is to wait for a weather pattern that will show most DTV signals, peek >> outside and listen to the scannner to make sure no Fedex freight >> aircraft is on the approach, hit auto-scan and hope that as many DTV >> channels as possible stick. Then delete the flakey ones. > > I can see that being really annoying. We have trouble whenever there is > heavy rain - a bunch of marginally OK stations at the top end of the > band deteriorate to the annoying pixelate and freeze mode with the odd > blast of ultrasonic clicks and chirps out of the speakers (unwatchable). > > I wonder if there is a market for a combined rain detector and variable > gain low noise block for terrestrial DTV aerials? > In the US it wouldn't help. There is plenty of signal, it's just that the contents become garbled and unintelligible. > Digital (DAB) radio is worse still - every unit I have tried will > intermittently crash to silence once a week and there is a random > variable time delay in the decoders about 1s behind realtime. > > HD TV is about 1s behind ordinary definition TV showing the same channel > presumably because the encode decode step takes more CPU. >> >>> If your terrestrial DTV reception is so dire why don't you use Freesat >>> or whatever it is called over there to get the free to air channels? >> >> I don't think there is any free satelluite this side of the pond. > > Wiki seems to think that you do have free to air on satellite though you > might need to mess around a bit to find them. It could still be a lot > cheaper if you count your time spent fighting this kit and completely > immune to terrestrial multipath distortion. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_television#United_States > > I find it useful for getting stuff like NHK. It isn't hard to set up. > Here it is hard. The regular sat TV is all Pay-TV. Yeah, you can pour a massive foundation, anchor a 3m-dish and try to pick some special programming but I really don't want to go to that length. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: Jim Thompson on 3 Aug 2010 16:34 On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 13:06:04 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >Jim Thompson wrote: >> On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 11:37:36 -0700, "Joel Koltner" >> <zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> "Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote in >>> message news:mqmg56hgcrirnkd153u6vccfa4qrtplk96(a)4ax.com... >>>> I have Sirius in the Q45, but I do web radio in my office...Roku >>>> Soundbridge. >>> Did the Q45 come with the Sirius receiver built-in, or did you add an >>> aftermarket one to it? >> >> Came with. >> >> My #1 son gave me a Panasonic head (for my truck) and I have a >> matching Sirius plug-in. But with a 10-year-old truck with only >> ~30,000 miles I can't rationalize the ~$13/month. >> > >So if you change vehicles they make you pay again? Eeuw. > >[...] The Q45 has Sirius OEM. I suppose you could carry around the Sirius plug-in from vehicle to vehicle, but it's be a nuisance. Sunday was the most I've driven the truck in years... a total of two hours... over to Aaron's in San Tan Valley and back. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | Spice is like a sports car... Performance only as good as the person behind the wheel.
From: Jim Thompson on 3 Aug 2010 17:00
On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 11:50:19 -0700, "Joel Koltner" <zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote in >message news:9sog56pq3587s6rn5i3fcahglucpo6mpim(a)4ax.com... >> My #1 son gave me a Panasonic head (for my truck) and I have a >> matching Sirius plug-in. But with a 10-year-old truck with only >> ~30,000 miles I can't rationalize the ~$13/month. >> >> Anyone want to make an offer ?:-) > >Which model Panasonic head unit is it? > >Perhaps you'd like to trade for an HD radio head unit! :-) > >---Joel Panasonic CQ-C7103U... http://analog-innovations.com/SED/PanasonicHead+SiriusAdapter.jpg ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | Spice is like a sports car... Performance only as good as the person behind the wheel. |