Dumbed down consumer electronics: Adding DTV channels
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From: Joel Koltner on 3 Aug 2010 17:00 "Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote in message news:07vg56linj4u83gdk9hu55jl8dssoi4tab(a)4ax.com... > I suppose you could carry around the Sirius plug-in from vehicle to > vehicle, but it's be a nuisance. We have a Stiletto 100 (http://www.amazon.com/Stiletto-Portable-Satellite-Radio-Receiver/dp/B000IM88EA) which is small enough that it's not too much of a nuisance. Although with all the Internet radio stations available these days and all our CDs ripped, I'd have to admit it doesn't come into the house nearly as often as it did, e.g., five years ago. ---Joel
From: Jim Thompson on 3 Aug 2010 17:04 On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 14:00:53 -0700, "Joel Koltner" <zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote in >message news:07vg56linj4u83gdk9hu55jl8dssoi4tab(a)4ax.com... >> I suppose you could carry around the Sirius plug-in from vehicle to >> vehicle, but it's be a nuisance. > >We have a Stiletto 100 >(http://www.amazon.com/Stiletto-Portable-Satellite-Radio-Receiver/dp/B000IM88EA) >which is small enough that it's not too much of a nuisance. > >Although with all the Internet radio stations available these days and all our >CDs ripped, I'd have to admit it doesn't come into the house nearly as often >as it did, e.g., five years ago. > >---Joel I listen to Fox, BBC, some local talk radio and numerous '50's and '60's rock-n-roll stations via the Roku. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | Spice is like a sports car... Performance only as good as the person behind the wheel.
From: Joerg on 3 Aug 2010 17:08 Joel Koltner wrote: > "Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote > in message news:07vg56linj4u83gdk9hu55jl8dssoi4tab(a)4ax.com... >> I suppose you could carry around the Sirius plug-in from vehicle to >> vehicle, but it's be a nuisance. > > We have a Stiletto 100 > (http://www.amazon.com/Stiletto-Portable-Satellite-Radio-Receiver/dp/B000IM88EA) > which is small enough that it's not too much of a nuisance. > > Although with all the Internet radio stations available these days and > all our CDs ripped, I'd have to admit it doesn't come into the house > nearly as often as it did, e.g., five years ago. > $350? Yikes. That's more than 10 lunches for two at our favorite Japanese restaurant. With two huge glasses of Hefeweisen from tap. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: Grant on 3 Aug 2010 18:46 On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 13:11:33 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >Martin Brown wrote: >> On 03/08/2010 16:35, Joerg wrote: >>> Martin Brown wrote: >> >>>> Panasonic kit sold in Europe will allow any amount of manual DTV tuning >>>> to add individual channels if you have the patience to do it. Autoscan >>>> tends to be more convenient when new channels pop (briefly) into >>>> existence. The most annoying thing is that several designs reset the >>>> favourites lists whenever you make a change using autoscan. >>>> >>> >>> Out here it's only he dumbed-down variety, only auto-scan. So the drill >>> is to wait for a weather pattern that will show most DTV signals, peek >>> outside and listen to the scannner to make sure no Fedex freight >>> aircraft is on the approach, hit auto-scan and hope that as many DTV >>> channels as possible stick. Then delete the flakey ones. >> >> I can see that being really annoying. We have trouble whenever there is >> heavy rain - a bunch of marginally OK stations at the top end of the >> band deteriorate to the annoying pixelate and freeze mode with the odd >> blast of ultrasonic clicks and chirps out of the speakers (unwatchable). >> >> I wonder if there is a market for a combined rain detector and variable >> gain low noise block for terrestrial DTV aerials? >> > >In the US it wouldn't help. There is plenty of signal, it's just that >the contents become garbled and unintelligible. And that was before transmission issues ;) Grant. > > >> Digital (DAB) radio is worse still - every unit I have tried will >> intermittently crash to silence once a week and there is a random >> variable time delay in the decoders about 1s behind realtime. >> >> HD TV is about 1s behind ordinary definition TV showing the same channel >> presumably because the encode decode step takes more CPU. >>> >>>> If your terrestrial DTV reception is so dire why don't you use Freesat >>>> or whatever it is called over there to get the free to air channels? >>> >>> I don't think there is any free satelluite this side of the pond. >> >> Wiki seems to think that you do have free to air on satellite though you >> might need to mess around a bit to find them. It could still be a lot >> cheaper if you count your time spent fighting this kit and completely >> immune to terrestrial multipath distortion. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_television#United_States >> >> I find it useful for getting stuff like NHK. It isn't hard to set up. >> > >Here it is hard. The regular sat TV is all Pay-TV. Yeah, you can pour a >massive foundation, anchor a 3m-dish and try to pick some special >programming but I really don't want to go to that length.
From: Joerg on 3 Aug 2010 19:00
Grant wrote: > On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 13:11:33 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> Martin Brown wrote: >>> On 03/08/2010 16:35, Joerg wrote: >>>> Martin Brown wrote: >>>>> Panasonic kit sold in Europe will allow any amount of manual DTV tuning >>>>> to add individual channels if you have the patience to do it. Autoscan >>>>> tends to be more convenient when new channels pop (briefly) into >>>>> existence. The most annoying thing is that several designs reset the >>>>> favourites lists whenever you make a change using autoscan. >>>>> >>>> Out here it's only he dumbed-down variety, only auto-scan. So the drill >>>> is to wait for a weather pattern that will show most DTV signals, peek >>>> outside and listen to the scannner to make sure no Fedex freight >>>> aircraft is on the approach, hit auto-scan and hope that as many DTV >>>> channels as possible stick. Then delete the flakey ones. >>> I can see that being really annoying. We have trouble whenever there is >>> heavy rain - a bunch of marginally OK stations at the top end of the >>> band deteriorate to the annoying pixelate and freeze mode with the odd >>> blast of ultrasonic clicks and chirps out of the speakers (unwatchable). >>> >>> I wonder if there is a market for a combined rain detector and variable >>> gain low noise block for terrestrial DTV aerials? >>> >> In the US it wouldn't help. There is plenty of signal, it's just that >> the contents become garbled and unintelligible. > > And that was before transmission issues ;) > Whoops. Even more issues? [...] -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM. |