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From: Earle Jones on 30 Jun 2010 18:46 In article <d96ad2a0-4b4b-46c9-80a8-bbcc65e99469(a)f14g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>, PD <thedraperfamily(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On May 24, 1:31�pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > On May 24, 11:20�am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 21, 10:50�pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > Every speed is created by an acceleration. > > > > > This is a problem, Mitch. > > > > > Every object has many different speeds at the same time, as viewed in > > > different reference frames. And so then the question would be, which > > > one of them was created by acceleration and how much? What about the > > > frame in which the speed of the object is zero? > > > > Every speed is created by acceleration except when it is exchanged in > > an instant in momentum exchange. But there was an original body that > > had to undergo acceleration to have a speed to be exchanged. > > And what speed does it have, Mitch? Remember that any object has an > infinite number of speeds at the same time. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch * It is not clear that Mitch knows the difference between velocity and acceleration. earle *
From: Earle Jones on 30 Jun 2010 18:47 In article <59f0eff6-c903-4bb7-aaba-eeb063d1520a(a)m4g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>, Don Stockbauer <donstockbauer(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On May 24, 5:05�pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > On May 24, 3:04�pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On May 24, 4:18�pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > On May 24, 12:49�pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 24, 1:31�pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On May 24, 11:20�am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On May 21, 10:50�pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Every speed is created by an acceleration. > > > > > > > > > This is a problem, Mitch. > > > > > > > > > Every object has many different speeds at the same time, as > > > > > > > viewed in > > > > > > > different reference frames. And so then the question would be, > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > one of them was created by acceleration and how much? What about > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > frame in which the speed of the object is zero? > > > > > > > > Every speed is created by acceleration except when it is exchanged > > > > > > in > > > > > > an instant in momentum exchange. But there was an original body > > > > > > that > > > > > > had to undergo acceleration to have a speed to be exchanged. > > > > > > > And what speed does it have, Mitch? Remember that any object has an > > > > > infinite number of speeds at the same time. > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > That is not objective. > > > > > I haven't got the foggiest idea what you mean by "objective". > > > > > > In absolute space energy has one speed. > > > > > That's too short to be a chef's salad. Maybe just a side of raw > > > vegetables and ranch dressing. > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > Energy flow is only at one rate through space. > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > Mitch - deep, deep, down he's extremely shallow. * But on the surface, he has great depth! earle *
From: BURT on 1 Jul 2010 00:33 On Jun 30, 3:46 pm, Earle Jones <earle.jo...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > In article > <d96ad2a0-4b4b-46c9-80a8-bbcc65e99...(a)f14g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On May 24, 1:31 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > On May 24, 11:20 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 21, 10:50 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > Every speed is created by an acceleration. > > > > > This is a problem, Mitch. > > > > > Every object has many different speeds at the same time, as viewed in > > > > different reference frames. And so then the question would be, which > > > > one of them was created by acceleration and how much? What about the > > > > frame in which the speed of the object is zero? > > > > Every speed is created by acceleration except when it is exchanged in > > > an instant in momentum exchange. But there was an original body that > > > had to undergo acceleration to have a speed to be exchanged. > > > And what speed does it have, Mitch? Remember that any object has an > > infinite number of speeds at the same time. > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > * > It is not clear that Mitch knows the difference between velocity and > acceleration. > > earle > *- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - You mean speed. The acceleration limit and the speed limit are the same. Mitch Raemsch
From: Earle Jones on 7 Jul 2010 01:32 In article <2348fc89-99eb-4c2a-9ec1-fad6d39dabde(a)b35g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>, BURT <macromitch(a)yahoo.com> wrote: [...] > > You mean speed. The acceleration limit and the speed limit are the > same. > > Mitch Raemsch * Are they measured in the same units? earle *
From: BURT on 7 Jul 2010 01:51 On Jul 6, 10:32 pm, Earle Jones <earle.jo...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > In article > <2348fc89-99eb-4c2a-9ec1-fad6d39da...(a)b35g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>, > > BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > [...] > > > > > You mean speed. The acceleration limit and the speed limit are the > > same. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > * > Are they measured in the same units? > > earle > * If the speed limit is C then the change in the speed limit is below C. Mitch Raemsch
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