From: D Yuniskis on
whit3rd wrote:
> On Mar 19, 10:32 am, D Yuniskis <not.going.to...(a)seen.com> wrote:
>
>> I need a small quantity (~20) of small {plastic,aluminum}
>> enclosures. But, I'm looking for something other than a
>> simple rectangular prism shape.
>>
>> So far, I haven't found anything "stock" that looks
>> appropriate
>
> Three ideas: sheetmetal work is fairly easy, if you can
> find a shop with brakes and shears, they
> can whip up a variety of flat-surfaced boxy things.
> Spotwelding or POP rivets or PEM nuts are suitable
> for the fastenings.
>
> Polycarbonate or acrylic sheeting can be heated in an
> oven to sag into any mold shape (or over any interior
> shapes), at modest temperatures.

Ooooh! That's an idea! Much less work than fiberglass,
too! (though I suspect relying on gravity means you
need to constrain your "shape" somewhat -- e.g., I imagine
there are "minimum sag radii" :> )

> Lots of 'box' items are available for lots of purposes,
> can you get a file-card box or a lunchbox to suit your
> purposes? How about an Altoids tin? Hubcap
> from a '57 Chevy?
From: Rich Webb on
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:41:05 -0700, D Yuniskis
<not.going.to.be(a)seen.com> wrote:

>Hi Rich,
>
>Rich Webb wrote:
>> On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:32:42 -0700, D Yuniskis
>>> I need a small quantity (~20) of small {plastic,aluminum}
>>> enclosures. But, I'm looking for something other than a
>>> simple rectangular prism shape.
>>>
>>> So far, I haven't found anything "stock" that looks
>>> appropriate (I did find a COTS "console-like" case but
>>> the angle is too shallow).
>>
>> Some possibles from my bookmarks list:
>> http://www.polycase.com/
>> http://www.rose-bopla.com/Main_Pgs/Table_of_Contents.htm
>> and of course http://www.hammondmfg.com/
>
>I had already checked ploycase and hammond -- no joy there.
>I chased the second link you provided and they don't seem to have
>anything either.
>
>I'm pretty sure I am going to have to roll my own.
>So, it boils down to figuring out what the limitations
>of any process I might adopt would be.

The "how big" question is still out there. A non-rectangular shape could
also be a pretty big animated head for a carnival float... ;-)

There are some "craft" approaches, like a papier mache shell over a wire
armature or a putty build-up over an existing form. Use that as a
positive to create a negative mold and then a small production run using
cast resin. http://www.micromark.com/Casting-and-Molding-Supplies.html
has the supplies to get started.

Or, talk to the folks at http://www.protomold.com/

--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
From: D Yuniskis on
Hi Hans-Bernhard,

Hans-Bernhard Br�ker wrote:
> D Yuniskis wrote:
>
>> I need a small quantity (~20) of small {plastic,aluminum}
>> enclosures. But, I'm looking for something other than a
>> simple rectangular prism shape.
>
> So now we know what you're _not_ looking for. But we don't know what
> you _are_ looking for. How is anybody supposed to be able to offer
> meaningful suggestions based on that?

Apparently, *other* have managed to do so! But, if you
need more details...

> What actually is the shape you're trying to get?

Klein bottle

> What size?

3 gills

> What colour / surface finish?

Must not reflect any light in the visible specturm

> How good does it have to look (e.g.: visible screws, tool marks)?

See above

> Any requirements about sharp edges / curve radii?

Yes

> What's it allowed to weigh?

< 0.0375 stone

> How tightly does it have to fit the content?

tight enough to keep the contents from escaping!

> What tolerances (i.e. how equal do those 20 units have to be)?

racial, ethnic and religious

> What's the budget, both in terms of money and time?

3 peng, less than a hebdomad

> What skill level can be expected from the person building it?

Somewhere between rocket-scientist and cancer-curer

Does any of this change your potential solution?? :-/
(If I could boil it down to "X = 2 * 3 + 4 / 5" then
I wouldn't need to ask for suggestions, would I? :< )
From: mpm on
On Mar 19, 12:32 pm, D Yuniskis <not.going.to...(a)seen.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I need a small quantity (~20) of small {plastic,aluminum}
> enclosures.  But, I'm looking for something other than a
> simple rectangular prism shape.
>
> So far, I haven't found anything "stock" that looks
> appropriate (I did find a COTS "console-like" case but
> the angle is too shallow).
>
> If push comes to shove, I can have a friend mill them
> out of blocks of aluminum but that seems terribly wasteful!
>
> I'm wondering, instead, if I can't hack together something
> with a sheet metal skeleton (or, maybe even a cardboard or
> wooden form!) and fiberglass?  This doesn't need to be
> terribly strong, structurally.  And, I could no doubt
> come up with a way of mounting everything to a *base*
> (i.e., to eliminate the need for fasteners *in* the skin).
>
> Has anyone done this sort of thing before?  Pointers to
> helpful tips as well as things to avoid...  :>
>
> Thanks!
> --don

Have you looked at PacTec Enclosures yet?
Link: http://www.pactecenclosures.com/

-mpm
From: D Yuniskis on
Hi Rich,

Rich Webb wrote:
>> I had already checked ploycase and hammond -- no joy there.
>> I chased the second link you provided and they don't seem to have
>> anything either.
>>
>> I'm pretty sure I am going to have to roll my own.
>> So, it boils down to figuring out what the limitations
>> of any process I might adopt would be.
>
> The "how big" question is still out there. A non-rectangular shape could
> also be a pretty big animated head for a carnival float... ;-)
>
> There are some "craft" approaches, like a papier mache shell over a wire
> armature or a putty build-up over an existing form. Use that as a
> positive to create a negative mold and then a small production run using
> cast resin. http://www.micromark.com/Casting-and-Molding-Supplies.html
> has the supplies to get started.

Ah, excellent! Thanks!

> Or, talk to the folks at http://www.protomold.com/

<frown>