From: BURT on
On Aug 6, 12:46 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 6, 2:46 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 6, 4:03 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > The ripple is 'seen' because it displaces the light traveling from the
> > > far distant galaxies.
>
> > > Evidence of dark matter displacement:
>
> > > 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'
> >http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_featur...
>
> > > "Astronomers using NASA’s Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view
> > > of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two
> > > galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is
> > > somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the
> > > water."
>
> > How do you know what you are seeing?
> > I challenge that you are not seeing what you say you are.
> > If it has never been identified how do you know that?
>
> > Mitch Raemsch
>
> I see no reason to doubt the astronomers.

But there is reason to doubt the Dark matter physics they are using.
It has never been identified and we can't find it then there certainly
is.
Please prove the existence of Dark matter first. If it is most of the
universe and is gravitationally bound you could never get it all to
the outside. In other words the biggest proof that it doesn't exist is
that we can't find it on Earth. It can't leak out of the Earth because
it is gravitationally bound.

Dark matter is not needed to solve the problem of the fast outer stars
of galaxies. There is something better. It is no prefered scale of
expansion of the universe driving galactic evolution.

Mitch Raemsch

> The ripple is 'seen' because it displaces the light traveling from the
> far distant galaxies.
>
> Evidence of dark matter displacement:
>
> 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_featur...
>
> "Astronomers using NASA’s Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view
> of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two
> galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is
> somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the
> water."
>
> 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?'
> A. EINSTEINhttp://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf
>
> "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass
> diminishes by L/c2."
>
> Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material. The
> mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists
> as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark matter.
> As matter converts to dark matter it expands in three dimensional
> space. The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring
> dark matter and matter is energy.
>
> Mass is conserved.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


From: mpc755 on
On Aug 6, 6:15 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 6, 12:46 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 6, 2:46 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 6, 4:03 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > The ripple is 'seen' because it displaces the light traveling from the
> > > > far distant galaxies.
>
> > > > Evidence of dark matter displacement:
>
> > > > 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'
> > >http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_featur....
>
> > > > "Astronomers using NASA’s Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view
> > > > of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two
> > > > galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is
> > > > somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the
> > > > water."
>
> > > How do you know what you are seeing?
> > > I challenge that you are not seeing what you say you are.
> > > If it has never been identified how do you know that?
>
> > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > I see no reason to doubt the astronomers.
>
> But there is reason to doubt the Dark matter physics they are using.
> It has never been identified and we can't find it then there certainly
> is.
> Please prove the existence of Dark matter first. If it is most of the
> universe and is gravitationally bound you could never get it all to
> the outside. In other words the biggest proof that it doesn't exist is
> that we can't find it on Earth. It can't leak out of the Earth because
> it is gravitationally bound.
>
> Dark matter is not needed to solve the problem of the fast outer stars
> of galaxies. There is something better. It is no prefered scale of
> expansion of  the universe driving galactic evolution.
>
> Mitch Raemsch
>
> > The ripple is 'seen' because it displaces the light traveling from the
> > far distant galaxies.
>
> > Evidence of dark matter displacement:
>
> > 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_featur...
>
> > "Astronomers using NASA’s Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view
> > of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two
> > galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is
> > somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the
> > water."
>
> > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?'
> > A. EINSTEINhttp://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf
>
> > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass
> > diminishes by L/c2."
>
> > Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material. The
> > mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists
> > as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark matter.
> > As matter converts to dark matter it expands in three dimensional
> > space. The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring
> > dark matter and matter is energy.
>
> > Mass is conserved.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
>

What part of 'Hubble finds dark matter' are you unable to understand?

'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_feature.html

"Astronomers using NASA’s Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view
of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two
galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is
somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the
water."

'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?'
A. EINSTEIN
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf

"If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass
diminishes by L/c2."

Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material. The
mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists
as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark matter.
As matter converts to dark matter it expands in three dimensional
space. The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring
dark matter and matter is energy.

Mass is conserved.
From: mpc755 on
On Aug 6, 6:15 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> But there is reason to doubt the Dark matter physics they are using.
> It has never been identified and we can't find it then there certainly
> is.
> Please prove the existence of Dark matter first. If it is most of the
> universe and is gravitationally bound you could never get it all to
> the outside. In other words the biggest proof that it doesn't exist is
> that we can't find it on Earth. It can't leak out of the Earth because
> it is gravitationally bound.
>

We 'find' dark matter on Earth every time a double slit experiment is
performed. If you are unable to understand the observed behaviors in a
double slit experiment are due to the particle having an associated
dark matter displacement wave then that is your issue, not the physics
of nature.

A moving particle has an associated dark matter displacement wave. The
particle enters and exits a single slit. The associated dark matter
displacement wave enters and exits multiple slits. The dark matter
displacement wave creates interference upon exiting the slit which
alters the direction the particle travels. Detecting the particle
causes decoherence of the associated dark matter displacement wave
(i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference.

Simply because you are unable to understand the observed behaviors in
a double slit experiment are because of dark matter does not mean dark
matter does not exist.

> Dark matter is not needed to solve the problem of the fast outer stars
> of galaxies. There is something better. It is no prefered scale of
> expansion of  the universe driving galactic evolution.
>
> Mitch Raemsch

What part of 'Hubble finds dark matter' are you unable to understand?

'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_feature.html

"Astronomers using NASA’s Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view
of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two
galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is
somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the
water."

'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?'
A. EINSTEIN
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf

"If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass
diminishes by L/c2."

Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material. The
mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists
as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark matter.
As matter converts to dark matter it expands in three dimensional
space. The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring
dark matter and matter is energy.

Mass is conserved.
From: BURT on
On Aug 6, 6:10 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 6, 6:15 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > But there is reason to doubt the Dark matter physics they are using.
> > It has never been identified and we can't find it then there certainly
> > is.
> > Please prove the existence of Dark matter first. If it is most of the
> > universe and is gravitationally bound you could never get it all to
> > the outside. In other words the biggest proof that it doesn't exist is
> > that we can't find it on Earth. It can't leak out of the Earth because
> > it is gravitationally bound.
>
> We 'find' dark matter on Earth every time a double slit experiment is
> performed. If you are unable to understand the observed behaviors in a
> double slit experiment are due to the particle having an associated
> dark matter displacement wave then that is your issue, not the physics
> of nature.
>
> A moving particle has an associated dark matter displacement wave. The
> particle enters and exits a single slit. The associated dark matter
> displacement wave enters and exits multiple slits. The dark matter
> displacement wave creates interference upon exiting the slit which
> alters the direction the particle travels. Detecting the particle
> causes decoherence of the associated dark matter displacement wave
> (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference.
>
> Simply because you are unable to understand the observed behaviors in
> a double slit experiment are because of dark matter does not mean dark
> matter does not exist.
>
> > Dark matter is not needed to solve the problem of the fast outer stars
> > of galaxies. There is something better. It is no prefered scale of
> > expansion of  the universe driving galactic evolution.
>
> > Mitch Raemsch
>
> What part of 'Hubble finds dark matter' are you unable to understand?
>
> 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_featur...
>
> "Astronomers using NASA’s Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view
> of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two
> galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is
> somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the
> water."
>
> 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?'
> A. EINSTEINhttp://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf
>
> "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass
> diminishes by L/c2."
>
> Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material. The
> mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists
> as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark matter.
> As matter converts to dark matter it expands in three dimensional
> space. The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring
> dark matter and matter is energy.
>
> Mass is conserved.

If dark matter is gravitationally bound to matter since the beginning
how can one seperate from the other and then stay outside?
I ask you to do the two slit experiment so that you can isolate the
dark matter found on Earth! Identifying Dark matter by you would be
great news to science!
But there is a better explanation and you won't find it.

Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on
On Aug 6, 11:11 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 6, 6:10 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 6, 6:15 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > But there is reason to doubt the Dark matter physics they are using.
> > > It has never been identified and we can't find it then there certainly
> > > is.
> > > Please prove the existence of Dark matter first. If it is most of the
> > > universe and is gravitationally bound you could never get it all to
> > > the outside. In other words the biggest proof that it doesn't exist is
> > > that we can't find it on Earth. It can't leak out of the Earth because
> > > it is gravitationally bound.
>
> > We 'find' dark matter on Earth every time a double slit experiment is
> > performed. If you are unable to understand the observed behaviors in a
> > double slit experiment are due to the particle having an associated
> > dark matter displacement wave then that is your issue, not the physics
> > of nature.
>
> > A moving particle has an associated dark matter displacement wave. The
> > particle enters and exits a single slit. The associated dark matter
> > displacement wave enters and exits multiple slits. The dark matter
> > displacement wave creates interference upon exiting the slit which
> > alters the direction the particle travels. Detecting the particle
> > causes decoherence of the associated dark matter displacement wave
> > (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference.
>
> > Simply because you are unable to understand the observed behaviors in
> > a double slit experiment are because of dark matter does not mean dark
> > matter does not exist.
>
> > > Dark matter is not needed to solve the problem of the fast outer stars
> > > of galaxies. There is something better. It is no prefered scale of
> > > expansion of  the universe driving galactic evolution.
>
> > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > What part of 'Hubble finds dark matter' are you unable to understand?
>
> > 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_featur...
>
> > "Astronomers using NASA’s Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view
> > of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two
> > galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is
> > somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the
> > water."
>
> > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?'
> > A. EINSTEINhttp://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf
>
> > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass
> > diminishes by L/c2."
>
> > Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material. The
> > mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists
> > as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark matter.
> > As matter converts to dark matter it expands in three dimensional
> > space. The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring
> > dark matter and matter is energy.
>
> > Mass is conserved.
>
> If dark matter is gravitationally bound to matter since the beginning
> how can one seperate from the other and then stay outside?

Dark matter is not gravitationally bound to matter.

The analogy is a bowling ball rolling down a ramp in a tank of water.
The water is not bound to the bowling ball. Different regions of water
occupying three dimensional space are continually displaced by the
bowling ball. The different regions of three dimensional space
occupied by water are continually exerting pressure towards the
bowling ball.

The Earth continually displaces dark matter as the Earth moves through
three dimensional space. Different regions of dark matter occupying
three dimensional space are continually exerting pressure towards and
throughout the Earth. This pressure exerted by displaced dark matter
towards and throughout the Earth is gravity.

> I ask you to do the two slit experiment so that you can isolate the
> dark matter found on Earth! Identifying Dark matter by you would be
> great news to science!

A moving particle has an associated dark matter displacement wave. The
particle travels a single path and enters and exits a single slit. The
associated dark matter displacement wave enters and exits multiple
slits. The dark matter displacement wave creates interference upon
exiting the slits which causes the direction the particle travels to
be altered. Detecting the particle causes decoherence of the
associated dark matter displacement wave and there is no interference.

'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?'
A. EINSTEIN
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf

"If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass
diminishes by L/c2."

Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material. The
mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists
as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark matter.
As matter converts to dark matter it expands in three dimensional
space. The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring
dark matter and matter is energy.

Mass is conserved.

> But there is a better explanation and you won't find it.
>

In Dark Matter Displacement, Maxwell's displacement current is a
displacement of dark matter.

Dark Matter Displacement is the most correct unified theory to date.