From: mpc755 on
On Aug 7, 5:19 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 7, 7:45 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Aug 6, 11:11 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > On Aug 6, 6:10 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Aug 6, 6:15 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > But there is reason to doubt the Dark matter physics they are using.
> > > > > It has never been identified and we can't find it then there certainly
> > > > > is.
> > > > > Please prove the existence of Dark matter first. If it is most of the
> > > > > universe and is gravitationally bound you could never get it all to
> > > > > the outside. In other words the biggest proof that it doesn't exist is
> > > > > that we can't find it on Earth. It can't leak out of the Earth because
> > > > > it is gravitationally bound.
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> > > > We 'find' dark matter on Earth every time a double slit experiment is
> > > > performed. If you are unable to understand the observed behaviors in a
> > > > double slit experiment are due to the particle having an associated
> > > > dark matter displacement wave then that is your issue, not the physics
> > > > of nature.
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> > > > A moving particle has an associated dark matter displacement wave. The
> > > > particle enters and exits a single slit. The associated dark matter
> > > > displacement wave enters and exits multiple slits. The dark matter
> > > > displacement wave creates interference upon exiting the slit which
> > > > alters the direction the particle travels. Detecting the particle
> > > > causes decoherence of the associated dark matter displacement wave
> > > > (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference.
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> > > > Simply because you are unable to understand the observed behaviors in
> > > > a double slit experiment are because of dark matter does not mean dark
> > > > matter does not exist.
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> > > > > Dark matter is not needed to solve the problem of the fast outer stars
> > > > > of galaxies. There is something better. It is no prefered scale of
> > > > > expansion of  the universe driving galactic evolution.
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> > > > > Mitch Raemsch
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> > > > What part of 'Hubble finds dark matter' are you unable to understand?
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> > > > 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_featur...
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> > > > "Astronomers using NASA’s Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view
> > > > of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two
> > > > galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is
> > > > somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the
> > > > water."
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> > > > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?'
> > > > A. EINSTEINhttp://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf
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> > > > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass
> > > > diminishes by L/c2."
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> > > > Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material. The
> > > > mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists
> > > > as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark matter.
> > > > As matter converts to dark matter it expands in three dimensional
> > > > space. The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring
> > > > dark matter and matter is energy.
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> > > > Mass is conserved.
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> > > If dark matter is gravitationally bound to matter since the beginning
> > > how can one seperate from the other and then stay outside?
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> > Dark matter is not gravitationally bound to matter.
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> The jig is up. Dark matter's gravity on matter is the purpose of its
> very use.

Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material.
Dark matter is displaced by matter.
Dark matter is not at rest when displaced.
Dark matter displaced by matter exerts pressure towards the matter.
Pressure exerted by displaced dark matter exerted towards matter is
gravity.

> But you misuse everything and now it is time to become intellectually
> honest about the science you use. Dark matter is not needed since the
> expansion of the universe effects the gravitational field distance
> over time.
>

'Mysterious Cosmic 'Dark Flow' Tracked Deeper into Universe'
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/releases/2010/10-023.html

'The clusters appear to be moving along a line extending from our
solar system toward Centaurus/Hydra, but the direction of this motion
is less certain. Evidence indicates that the clusters are headed
outward along this path, away from Earth, but the team cannot yet rule
out the opposite flow. "We detect motion along this axis, but right
now our data cannot state as strongly as we'd like whether the
clusters are coming or going," Kashlinsky said.'

The clusters are headed along this path because the Universe is, or
the local Universe we exist in is, a jet stream. Analogous to the jet
stream of a black hole.

The following is an image of a jet stream:

http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html

The reason for the expansion of the universe is the continual emission
of dark matter into the 'Universal' jet stream. In the image above,
'1st Stars' is where the conditions enable dark matter to be
compressed into matter.

'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?'
A. EINSTEIN
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf

"If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass
diminishes by L/c2."

Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material. The
mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists
as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark matter.
As matter converts to dark matter it expands in three dimensional
space. The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring
dark matter and matter is energy.

Mass is conserved.
From: BURT on
On Aug 7, 6:58 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 7, 12:32 pm, bert <herbertglazie...(a)msn.com> wrote:
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> > On Aug 6, 3:46 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Aug 6, 2:46 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Aug 6, 4:03 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > The ripple is 'seen' because it displaces the light traveling from the
> > > > > far distant galaxies.
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> > > > > Evidence of dark matter displacement:
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> > > > > 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'
> > > >http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_featur...
>
> > > > > "Astronomers using NASA’s Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view
> > > > > of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two
> > > > > galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is
> > > > > somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the
> > > > > water."
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> > > > How do you know what you are seeing?
> > > > I challenge that you are not seeing what you say you are.
> > > > If it has never been identified how do you know that?
>
> > > > Mitch Raemsch
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> > > I see no reason to doubt the astronomers.
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> > > The ripple is 'seen' because it displaces the light traveling from the
> > > far distant galaxies.
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> > > Evidence of dark matter displacement:
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> > > 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_featur...
>
> > > "Astronomers using NASA’s Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view
> > > of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two
> > > galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is
> > > somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the
> > > water."
>
> > > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?'
> > > A. EINSTEINhttp://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf
>
> > > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass
> > > diminishes by L/c2."
>
> > > Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material. The
> > > mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists
> > > as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark matter..
> > > As matter converts to dark matter it expands in three dimensional
> > > space. The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring
> > > dark matter and matter is energy.
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> > > Mass is conserved.- Hide quoted text -
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> > > - Show quoted text -
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> > My "Spin is in theory" tells this. Energy spinning in place in the
> > micro realm creates matter particles Take the electron its structure
> > is spinning at c photons  Get the picture  TreBert
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> Matter is compressed dark matter and dark matter is uncompressed
> matter. It could very well be spin which allows dark matter to be
> compressed into matter.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

There's no spin on this.

Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on
On Aug 7, 10:10 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 7, 6:58 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > My "Spin is in theory" tells this. Energy spinning in place in the
> > > micro realm creates matter particles Take the electron its structure
> > > is spinning at c photons  Get the picture  TreBert
>
> > Matter is compressed dark matter and dark matter is uncompressed
> > matter. It could very well be spin which allows dark matter to be
> > compressed into matter.- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
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> There's no spin on this.
>

The cause which conditions dark matter's state which allows it to
convert into and maintain its compressed state as matter, could be
spin.

Dark Matter Displacement is the most correct unified theory to date.

A moving particle has an associated dark matter displacement wave. The
particle enters and exits a single slit. The associated dark matter
displacement wave enters and exits multiple slits. The dark matter
displacement wave creates interference upon exiting the slits which
causes the direction the particle travels to alter. Detecting the
particle causes decoherence of the associated dark matter displacement
wave and there is no interference.

Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material.
Dark matter is displaced by matter.
Dark matter is not at rest when displaced.
Dark matter displaced by matter exerts pressure towards the matter.
Pressure exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is gravity.

'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?'
A. EINSTEIN
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf

"If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass
diminishes by L/c2."

Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material. The
mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists
as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark matter.
As matter converts to dark matter it expands in three dimensional
space. The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring
dark matter and matter is energy.

Mass is conserved.