From: nueoff on

SNOman wrote:
> nueoff(a)gmail.com wrote:
> > P. wrote:
> >
> >>http://www.essentialpim.com/
> >>
> >>"With every day, EssentialPIM is becoming more and more popular. We have
> >>decided to give out free licenses for EssentialPIM Pro for everyone, who
> >>comes to our homepage (www.essentialpim.com) on 31st of October, the
> >>Halloween Day.
> >>
> >>That's right; every visitor will get a copy of fully-licensed (to your
> >>name!) EssentialPIM Pro and free upgrades for 1 year or until the 2.99
> >>version of EssentialPIM Pro, whichever is longer. Both desktop and
> >>portable (ready to run from flash USB drive) editions will be at your
> >>disposal to choose.
> >>
> >>We start on Monday, October 31, 2005 12:00 AM (GMT/UTC) and finish at
> >>11:59 PM (GMT/UTC) the same day. Do not get late and get yourself a hit PIM!
> >
> >
> > Please don't take offense, but this is a freeware forum. Your program
> > may be good, but it isn't freeware, so please promote it somewhere
> > else.
> >
> 8><
>
> Sorry to be a stickler for detail, but on 1 Nov only, it is freeware.

"free upgrades for 1 year or until the 2.99 version of EssentialPIM
Pro, whichever is longer" doesn't fall within my personal definition of
freeware. I suppose there has to be some latitude here, but I think we
should strive to limit the discussion in this group to true freeware.

From: P. on
SNOman wrote:
>> P. wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.essentialpim.com/
>
> Sorry to be a stickler for detail, but on 1 Nov only, it is freeware.

No. It's free forever after that date if you choose to download it and
presumably get it activated.
I posted the link as I said - because I came across it. So what if it's
payware ? IF you get it tomorrow, it's FREE and can be used for as long
as you want. FREE.

If anything I should be popped at for duping a previous post.

I'm actually using another FREE PIM but as it has a payware cousin I'll
be careful not to mention it.

P.
From: Harvey Van Sickle on
On 30 Oct 2005, wrote

>
> SNOman wrote:
>> nueoff(a)gmail.com wrote:
>>> P. wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.essentialpim.com/
>>>>
>>>> "With every day, EssentialPIM is becoming more and more
>>>> popular. We have decided to give out free licenses for
>>>> EssentialPIM Pro for everyone, who comes to our homepage
>>>> (www.essentialpim.com) on 31st of October, the Halloween Day.
>>>>
>>>> That's right; every visitor will get a copy of fully-licensed
>>>> (to your name!) EssentialPIM Pro and free upgrades for 1 year
>>>> or until the 2.99 version of EssentialPIM Pro, whichever is
>>>> longer. Both desktop and portable (ready to run from flash USB
>>>> drive) editions will be at your disposal to choose.
>>>>
>>>> We start on Monday, October 31, 2005 12:00 AM (GMT/UTC) and
>>>> finish at 11:59 PM (GMT/UTC) the same day. Do not get late and
>>>> get yourself a hit PIM!
>>>
>>>
>>> Please don't take offense, but this is a freeware forum. Your
>>> program may be good, but it isn't freeware, so please promote it
>>> somewhere else.
>>>
>> 8><
>>
>> Sorry to be a stickler for detail, but on 1 Nov only, it is
>> freeware.
>
> "free upgrades for 1 year or until the 2.99 version of
> EssentialPIM Pro, whichever is longer" doesn't fall within my
> personal definition of freeware.

But doesn't that just mean "not only free, but also coming with some
free upgrades"?

Would you have a problem with "free but not upgradeable to future
versions", or does including time-limited *upgrades* make it non-
freeware?

If you dod, I feel that "last freeware versions" must logically not
count as freeware, on the basis that there are upgrades out there which
are being charged for.

> I suppose there has to be some
> latitude here, but I think we should strive to limit the
> discussion in this group to true freeware.

Your "personal definition" of "true" freeware is, according to my
personal definition, too restrictive.

--
Cheers,
Harvey
From: Harvey Van Sickle on
On 30 Oct 2005, P. wrote

> SNOman wrote:
>>> P. wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.essentialpim.com/
>>
>> Sorry to be a stickler for detail, but on 1 Nov only, it is
>> freeware.
>
> No. It's free forever after that date if you choose to download it
> and presumably get it activated.
> I posted the link as I said - because I came across it. So what if
> it's payware ? IF you get it tomorrow, it's FREE and can be used
> for as long as you want. FREE.
>
> If anything I should be popped at for duping a previous post.
>
> I'm actually using another FREE PIM but as it has a payware cousin
> I'll be careful not to mention it.

Some people get a bit religious about these things.

Thanks for posting the link to a free version of a good product.

--
Cheers,
Harvey
From: SNOman on
P. wrote:
> SNOman wrote:
>
>>> P. wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.essentialpim.com/
>>
>>
>> Sorry to be a stickler for detail, but on 1 Nov only, it is freeware.
>
>
> No. It's free forever after that date if you choose to download it and
> presumably get it activated.
> I posted the link as I said - because I came across it. So what if it's
> payware ? IF you get it tomorrow, it's FREE and can be used for as long
> as you want. FREE.
>
> If anything I should be popped at for duping a previous post.
>
> I'm actually using another FREE PIM but as it has a payware cousin I'll
> be careful not to mention it.
>
> P.
Exactly it is only free if you obtain it on Nov 1