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From: Ace Fekay [MCT] on 29 Sep 2009 12:19
"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
<lanwench(a)heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Ace Fekay [MCT] <aceman(a)mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote:
>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>> <lanwench(a)heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in
>> message news:eC74m2RQKHA.2092(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> jdm_222 <jdm222(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible to build an architecture that has an Exchange edge
>>>> server in a DMZ that communicates with the Exchange server on SBS
>>>> 2008? If so, what does the licensing look like for that? Do you
>>>> need to purchase additional licenses or Exchange software for the
>>>> edge server?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> You'd need a license for Exchange 2007 and separate Exchange CALs for
>>> this. I don't think SBS 2008 is designed to work in this
>>> fashion....it is not going to buy you much anyway. If you need
>>> enterprise-level topology then SBS is not the product for you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> I thought Exchange 2007 on SBS 2008 allows setting up an Edge?
>>
>> Ace
>
> Maybe it does, but it ain't included and would be pricey. I really don't
> see the point in a single Exchange server environment. Same with FE/BE in
> E2003 and prior ... unless you need to serve OWA for multiple backend
> servers, not worth the bother.
>


I guess it depends on the security requirements of the company, especially
if following government guidelines (such as pharmas) whether to institute it
or not. I worked in a large environment with FE/BE along with an ISA, as
well as Ironmail for spam and AV control. Pricey Pricey Pricey...

As for SBS 2008, not sure... I thought it was in the Premium release?

Ace


From: Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] on 29 Sep 2009 12:42
Ace Fekay [MCT] <aceman(a)mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote:
> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> <lanwench(a)heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in
> message news:uekrS%23RQKHA.3908(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Ace Fekay [MCT] <aceman(a)mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote:
>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>>> <lanwench(a)heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in
>>> message news:eC74m2RQKHA.2092(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> jdm_222 <jdm222(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it possible to build an architecture that has an Exchange edge
>>>>> server in a DMZ that communicates with the Exchange server on SBS
>>>>> 2008? If so, what does the licensing look like for that? Do you
>>>>> need to purchase additional licenses or Exchange software for the
>>>>> edge server?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>
>>>> You'd need a license for Exchange 2007 and separate Exchange CALs
>>>> for this. I don't think SBS 2008 is designed to work in this
>>>> fashion....it is not going to buy you much anyway. If you need
>>>> enterprise-level topology then SBS is not the product for you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I thought Exchange 2007 on SBS 2008 allows setting up an Edge?
>>>
>>> Ace
>>
>> Maybe it does, but it ain't included and would be pricey. I really
>> don't see the point in a single Exchange server environment. Same
>> with FE/BE in E2003 and prior ... unless you need to serve OWA for
>> multiple backend servers, not worth the bother.
>>
>
>
> I guess it depends on the security requirements of the company,
> especially if following government guidelines (such as pharmas)
> whether to institute it or not. I worked in a large environment with
> FE/BE along with an ISA, as well as Ironmail for spam and AV control.
> Pricey Pricey Pricey...

You can still use ISA (on a separate box) to publish OWA in a single
Exchange server envonment.
>
> As for SBS 2008, not sure... I thought it was in the Premium release?
>
Nyet. You get Windows 2008 and SQL.


> Ace



From: Cliff Galiher on 29 Sep 2009 13:13
You'd need another license for Windows Server and another license for
Exchange, and none of the wizards will work, but it *can* be done.

FWIW, considering the price of licenses, you'd be better served by looking
at EBS if you want to go this route. You get Exchange pre-configured in a
back-end and transport role with that product.

-Cliff


"jdm_222" <jdm222(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D5AE3877-3B98-4159-8F74-8BDE1FC88AF2(a)microsoft.com...
> Hello,
>
> Is it possible to build an architecture that has an Exchange edge server
> in
> a DMZ that communicates with the Exchange server on SBS 2008? If so, what
> does the licensing look like for that? Do you need to purchase additional
> licenses or Exchange software for the edge server?
>
> Thank you,

From: Ace Fekay [MCT] on 29 Sep 2009 14:22
"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
<lanwench(a)heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:%23MJhcPSQKHA.5032(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Ace Fekay [MCT] <aceman(a)mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote:
>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>> <lanwench(a)heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in
>> message news:uekrS%23RQKHA.3908(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Ace Fekay [MCT] <aceman(a)mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote:
>>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>>>> <lanwench(a)heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in
>>>> message news:eC74m2RQKHA.2092(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> jdm_222 <jdm222(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it possible to build an architecture that has an Exchange edge
>>>>>> server in a DMZ that communicates with the Exchange server on SBS
>>>>>> 2008? If so, what does the licensing look like for that? Do you
>>>>>> need to purchase additional licenses or Exchange software for the
>>>>>> edge server?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>
>>>>> You'd need a license for Exchange 2007 and separate Exchange CALs
>>>>> for this. I don't think SBS 2008 is designed to work in this
>>>>> fashion....it is not going to buy you much anyway. If you need
>>>>> enterprise-level topology then SBS is not the product for you.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I thought Exchange 2007 on SBS 2008 allows setting up an Edge?
>>>>
>>>> Ace
>>>
>>> Maybe it does, but it ain't included and would be pricey. I really
>>> don't see the point in a single Exchange server environment. Same
>>> with FE/BE in E2003 and prior ... unless you need to serve OWA for
>>> multiple backend servers, not worth the bother.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I guess it depends on the security requirements of the company,
>> especially if following government guidelines (such as pharmas)
>> whether to institute it or not. I worked in a large environment with
>> FE/BE along with an ISA, as well as Ironmail for spam and AV control.
>> Pricey Pricey Pricey...
>
> You can still use ISA (on a separate box) to publish OWA in a single
> Exchange server envonment.
>>
>> As for SBS 2008, not sure... I thought it was in the Premium release?
>>
> Nyet. You get Windows 2008 and SQL.
>
>
>> Ace
>
>
>


Ok, thanks!


From: Ace Fekay [MCT] on 29 Sep 2009 14:23
"Cliff Galiher" <cgaliher(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ekkc2gSQKHA.4600(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> You'd need another license for Windows Server and another license for
> Exchange, and none of the wizards will work, but it *can* be done.
>
> FWIW, considering the price of licenses, you'd be better served by looking
> at EBS if you want to go this route. You get Exchange pre-configured in a
> back-end and transport role with that product.
>
> -Cliff
>

Ahh, that's what I was trying to remember. I thought there was a version
that included configuring an Edge.

Thanks, Cliff. :-)

Ace



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